#25  UFC’s Bryce Mitchell on Fighter Pay, Flat Earth, Farm Life, Bigfoot, & More

#25 UFC’s Bryce Mitchell on Fighter Pay, Flat Earth, Farm Life, Bigfoot, & More

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UFC contender Bryce Mitchell sits down with us for a raw, honest conversation about what’s broken in MMA — from extreme weight cuts, to fighter pay, to the rules he believes are holding athletes back. We dig into Bryce’s firsthand experience cutting dangerous amounts of weight, why he believes fighters should compete at walk-around weight, and what he thinks the UFC could change to make the sport safer and more exciting. He also opens up about life on his 16-acre Arkansas farm, faith, family, free will, and the battles outside the cage most fans never see. Here’s what we explore: • Why current weight-cutting practices are hurting fighters • The real story behind fighter pay and money in MMA • Bryce’s solution for walk-around weigh-ins • Life on the farm — training, discipline, faith, recovery • Thoughts on power slap, modern culture, and finding meaning • The personal challenges that shaped him long before the UFC If you care about MMA, fighter safety, fairness, and real stories from the octagon, this is one of Bryce’s most open conversations yet. #BryceMitchell #UFC #MMA #WeightCutting #FighterPay #WalkAroundWeight #CombatSports #AandMPodcast #FarmLife #FaithAndReason #RealTalk #Podcast #Sports #Sport #Fighter #FlatEarth #Austinandmatt #Austinandmattpodcast #NewEpisode #MMACommunity #FightTalk 00:00 Exploring the Flat Earth Theory and Spirituality 06:07 Fighter Culture and Its Societal Impact 08:59 The Existence of Bigfoot and Nephilim 12:09 Aliens, Demons, and Project Blue Beam 15:06 The Nature of Consciousness and Free Will 33:17 The Nature of Magnetism and Free Energy 36:10 Ancient Civilizations and Their Knowledge 38:50 The Future of Energy and Self-Sufficiency 39:34 The Decline of the US Dollar 42:30 The Role of Digital Currency and the Mark of the Beast 49:21 Elon Musk and the Future of Technology 53:31 The Threat of Control and Humanity's Future 01:00:33 Exploring Conspiracies and Earthly Mysteries 01:03:29 The Nature of God and Spiritual Realms 01:06:30 Debating Morality and Free Will 01:11:51 Personal Reflections on Faith and Upbringing 01:15:18 The Ethics of Eating Meat and Veganism 01:26:12 Nature, Survival, and Human Connection 01:27:29 The Great Outdoors: Nature's Call 01:29:37 Meeting Theo Vaughn: A Comedic Connection 01:30:49 The Genius of Comedy: Understanding Theo Vaughn 01:32:16 Tucker Carlson: A Personal Journey 01:33:22 The Impact of Tucker Carlson on Personal Life 01:34:39 The Rise of ALP: A Tobacco Revolution 01:36:29 Vices and Recovery: Cannabis in Combat Sports 01:39:04 Fighter Recovery: The Aftermath of Knockouts 01:40:05 Alcohol vs. Cannabis: A Fighter's Perspective 01:44:21 Fight Integrity: The Dark Side of Betting 01:47:10 Regulations in Fighting: The Betting Ban 01:49:10 Changing the Game: Rounds and Scoring in MMA 01:52:02 Backyard MMA: A New Era of Fighting 01:53:23 The Weight of Control in Fighting 01:56:42 The Burden of Weight Cuts 02:00:18 Life After Fighting: Political Aspirations 02:04:50 The Future of Robots and Their Impact 02:22:04 The Joy of Fatherhood and Legacy @brycethugnastymitchell1007 is a beast.

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Most people think Elon is actually in space. [music] I know he's not. I know you're lying, bro. >> I got you. Space don't exist. Mars [music] is not a planet. It's not a thing you can walk on. I promise. Like, I'm not guessing. >> It's a star or [music] a >> It's a It's a star. Every person says, "I was abducted by aliens or I saw alien or I was touched by alien." I literally believe them all. I think it's something that we're all calling aliens. that it's actually something spiritual rather that [music] can take physical form. I found out the earth is flat and on once once you find out the earth is flat, we're in a firmament just like the Bible says. I like to assume every fight I'm going to actually die. I assume I'm going to be dead. I assume I'm going to be incapacitated in a coma cuz when I operate on that assumption I say I'll be lucky to live through this [ __ ] The weight [music] cut controls the fighters. It makes them get less fights available. I know what it's about. I know why the rules are in place. Fighters literally can't fight the [music] next day. Even if they go in there, one punch, don't get touched, you can't fight the next day cuz you just cut 25 lbs in one day. >> Who do you think wins in a fight, Tucker Carlson or Piers Morgan? >> No, that's not even a fight. I mean, a fight is when there's worthy resistance, >> you know. >> Oh, no. Keep going. >> He'd knock his lights out just like that. >> Who do you put is pound-for-pound best right now in your mind? >> Me. Hell yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, because pound-for-pound means there's no rules. That means I can grab a gun and I'd kill everybody in the woods. >> [laughter] >> I would. I mean, because it's what it means. It means I get to fight heavyweights. Well, okay. So, now we're not talking about weight classes. So, now what are we talking about? I can shoot, too. If you follow the UFC at all, you've probably heard of Bryce Mitchell. He's a former lightweight that's moved down to bantamweight, and he's just a beast inside the octagon, but he may well be equally known for his opinions and antics outside the octagon. He's a very controversial figure in that he's a self-proclaimed flat-earther, he's a biblical literalist, and an aspiring politician. Bryce Mitchell is one of the nicest guys we've met. And so when we got the opportunity to go to his 16 acre farm in Arkansas, we jumped at the chance. And I'm going to say, you can't help but root for the guy. I asked him off camera, you know, how did he get this farm and all the buildings and and he said he he he's paid for it all with fight money. I mean, he has truly come out of poverty and is building himself up to be a sovereign individual. When we walked into his shop where it's half a training room, which you're going to see, and then half tractors and tools and all of these, he had a big cardboard box where he was growing grubs, worms, and he had eggs that he was trying to hatch because he wanted to he wants to provide all of his own food on his own farm and to be able to live completely independently. It's really impressive to both be an active UFC fighter who's beaten some of the best fighters in the world and to have a farm, a hobby farm where he's producing cattle and produce and all of these. So, he was awesome and I think you're really going to enjoy this conversation. He says some wild opinions and you're probably not going to agree with everything that he says and that's okay. I probably have about a decade on him and I've changed my mind about a lot of things in the last 10 years and so I'm not going to hold anybody's opinions against them. I'm just grateful he has opinions. I'm grateful he's actually thinking about things as best as he knows how and coming up with the way the world works. So, we had such a fantastic time with him. In fact, once we were done, we turned off the cameras and he invited us over to his trailer that's beside his house and he lived in that trailer for eight years while he was saving up fight money to build the house that he has now. His wife Aaron is incredible. Uh he has a 19-month-old son named Tucker whom he named after Tucker Carlson. He was on the Tucker Carlson uh podcast a couple of years ago and that's how he met his wife. His wife saw him on there and then they connected and then when they had a kid he named his son after Tucker. So he's actually really good friends with Tucker Carlson, Theo Vaughn, a lot of these guys, they all know him. I'm so grateful that we got to talk with him. So I hope you really appreciate this conversation. It will get interrupted a few times by Mr. Tommy, who's a hand on his farm, and we left that in because we just wanted to give you a chance to see kind of what a day in the life of Bryce Mitchell is like. All right, onto the show. This is the Austin and Matt podcast. >> Bryce, thanks for having us. This is so fun. >> You guys are so amazing, man. Thank you so much for coming out. Yeah, man. This >> I love this place. For for those who aren't watching, we are inside of your gym, your personal gym, and we're on the mats. And behind me is a tractor and a wood burning stove. >> Yes, sir. >> And a bench press >> and some chicken eggs where he's got them incubating. >> Yes, sir. It's an incubator. >> You're growing your own homemade incubator. >> Growing your own a master incubator. Yes, sir. >> You're growing your own grubs and worms. >> Yes, sir. >> This is This is an incredible thing you've put together. >> Thank you so much. So, we're in what I call the shop. It's literally connected to my house and uh the shop. It encompasses the gym which we're on the mats where I train and people from all over the world fly out here, you know, and then we also have storage equipment, a little bit of room for like weight uh weight workout here in the shop. And then um all my tools, >> yeah, >> you know, and I got a little work table over there with the vice on it. So, you know, >> do you train exclusively here or do you have other places you go to? >> So, I train in a gym in Cersei. It's 15 minutes from here. It's called Roujitsu. Love that spot. That's where I broke my nose the other day. >> All right. Yeah, >> it was an accident, man. But uh and then Little Rock. Uh that's an hour away. And uh then I'll also got a lot of connections in Vegas. Um and anytime I go to a big city, I can find gyms. I always find somewhere to train. So I've trained in a lot of places. I've even been to Serbia to train. I lived there for like two months. I've been in New York. I I lived with Alli Quinn, a UFC fighter. >> You know, Almaine Sterling, the champ. Yep. I was sleeping on their couch. >> Oh, no way. >> For about two months in New York. >> And you train with Morab, too? >> Yeah, I train with Morob. Yeah. And his buddy Aljo. Yeah. We're friends, brother. I've known him since I was 19. I remember the first day I met Morab. I'll never forget the first day I met Morab ever. I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. Aljo Morab, I was sleeping on Al's couch, staying there. We had Pat in there. Pumi was downstairs. It was a fighter house. We all train together. Uh, you know, make each other better. What do you remember about Morab on that first day? >> First day I remember we went in the gym and I looked at him and I was like, "All right." And I hadn't met him yet. And I just had met him when class started. So I knew everybody else pretty much I was training with except Morab. And I was like, "Okay, this guy's a piece." I just look at him and knew. And then we went chest to chest. I remember he he threw me up head over the hills. I did a cartwheel. I remember landing on the ground thinking, "Oh man, this guy knows what he's doing." And then we just started going again and again. And then I went with Al Joe. I rotated Al Joe. put me about five anaconda chokes in a row, maybe 10. Same choke over and over and over. We just kept doing the same thing. I kept trying to do it and I was doing it wrong and he he just locked me up in the same choke. I remember that like it was yesterday. >> Who do you think you get along with the best in the UFC? >> Um well, I mean AJ Cunningham, that's he stays over here with me and we train all the time. So AJ uh I mean he literally has lived here before. Bro, okay. If we don't count AJ because he's like that's Come on. He's like my brother, bro. Like, okay. Um, it's Dude, there's just so many of them. They're all so cool. I mean, I all all the fighters that I know are just so respectful and just such really nice people. Uh, then I have to say TJ Brown. And, uh, well, that's not fair either cuz he lives an hour away. And we go fishing, we hang out, we we've known each other forever. So, I'd say TJ and AJ [laughter] >> and they're both from Arkansas. Um, but out outside of Arkansas, um, okay, I'll tell you one person that I like talking to the most, uh, that I that I met, um, that I just had a really great conversation, which I didn't know how to go first time I met him, but it went really well. And I really like was Conor McGregor. I've only talked to him like a couple times, but, you know, I really liked him after after meeting him. >> Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about his run for president over >> I wish he would have won, but if since he didn't win, uh, his country's going to fall into civil war and tyranny. >> That leads me to a deeper question. What do you think that fighters because fighters are really have really entered the cultural zeitgeist? They have a firm place up at at sort of the top of culture right now. What do you think they bring to society as far as cultural leaders? What do you think the role of the fighter is in society? Well, overall fist fighting is if you just take the fist fight itself, it's absolutely worthless for society. Most people don't need to have handtoh hand combat skills or anything to do that pertains to fist fighting. But the spirit that you see in a fighter, you want that spirit in your society. And if you don't have that spirit in your society, a society that has that spirit will conquer you in battle. and that that fighting spirit because what it really is is like even when you know that you're going to lose, you just keep fighting. Like that's like real fighters when they're in fights sometimes, they're like, "I can't win this fight. I'm I'm dog ass tired. I can't move. I can't do nothing. I can't even hardly breathe, but I'm just going to keep fighting just because I don't even think I'm going to win. I'm just going to maybe I can. I'm just fighting for my life. I'm just fighting to survive to not get my head bashed." And then you come back after fights like that and then you win and you're like, "Wow, that was a fight. I thought I might die." You know what I mean? And if if that spirit is alive in a society and people can appreciate that spirit in an individual and uplift an individual who contains that spirit that embodies that never quit, fight to the death attitude, then I'd say that's a rather healthy society. And if if a society was idolizing people who kick a ball o over somebody that was to really demonstrate fighting abilities, it's to me it's not the same. Kicking a ball and fighting is not the same. And uh I think that the fighter spirit ought to be valued. And uh it when I think about the people I look up to the most, uh it's a lot of them are fighters. You know, I've always looked up to MMA fighters. I have. You know, I grew up watching Chuck Odell, Matt Hughes. Those are my dudes, man. I even I love Nick Diaz. >> Come on. >> Let's go. You know, [laughter] >> I love Nate, too. I started Nate's great >> as of lately. Nate's just I think I think Nick and Nate are basically the best that there's ever been. I mean, as far as like fight to the death potential. They're some of the toughest. >> I don't think anybody could ever beat prime Nick and Nate Diaz. Especially two on two. Especially two on two to the death in the backyard. Bro, those guys, they're they're the fighting spirit that I'm talking about. That is fighting spirit, those two guys. >> GSP was also to me some someone who just he he was so nice off out of the cage and in the cage he just was insane and just warrior mentality. >> Mhm. >> Um it's funny. I was just thinking about it because you and Morab have both have a win over an Makamedov. >> Mhm. >> Have you guys ever talked about that or is that what do you think about that? Because the they're the Dagistanis are, you know, they're force right now, >> right? And you had a great win over Sade over in Abu Dhabi. But also Morabi, >> thank you so much. >> Um, >> Umar. >> Umar Umar. That's right. >> Yeah, that's pretty cool. >> So, I haven't seen Morab since my last fight. Uh, I did speak to him on the internet. I congratulated him on his win. I remember that. Uh, but no, we haven't talked about that Nurmov yet, but uh, Umar is higher ranked than Shahed is. >> Sure. Um, I personally think that Seahed is is dangerous, bro. Dangerous. Oh, yeah. Quick, tall, and fast and hits hard. Whereas Umar is very uh grinds very grindy. Doesn't get as much tired. But as far as like who hits harder, bro. >> Say hits harder. You know what I mean? Than Umar does. But they're both formidable threats, bro. Anybody of the Nurmma Gomedov lineage, come on, man. Let's Let's put respect on their earned. Where do we want to go? >> Let's go into Bigfoot. All right, >> let's do it. >> Yeah, I love Bigfoot. >> I haven't heard you speak on Bigfoot. You I'm sure you have, but I just want to know what you think about Bigfoot. >> But I do see a Bigfoot flag behind you. >> I love Bigfoot, bro. I'm a Bigfoot believer. >> I'll be honest. I've got one buddy that says he might have encountered it, you know. Um, >> where where at? In Arkansas. >> Is somewhere they call it the Lost 80. He was fishing. So, he was in a like a moat around the island and he was with the girl and uh they were fishing and he saw a boulder. He says like this big around like five basketballs around, you know, a big boulder. Human really couldn't lift it feasibly, you know. >> Yeah. >> And he saw a big boulder flying through the water. He didn't see what threw it. He just saw a boulder fly through the water. And she said, "That was a fish. That was a fish." He said, "No, that was a rock." But they were out, you know, pretty secluded. I mean, there was nothing around and no high spot from the rock to fall from, unless if it would have fell from a tree. But, you know, it's he saw the rock fly. She thought she was saying, "No, there's no way that was a rock. It was too big." He said, "No, I saw the rock. It was a rock. She thought it was a fish." And she said, "Let's get out of here." He said, "Okay, we're getting out of here." And I believe my buddy, his name is Bob, but uh I've never seen anything like that, but I also don't go deep out into the Ozarks, but I do believe that Bigfoot's in the Ozarks. Uh, so what would Bigfoot be then? Do you think he'd be like a homminid? Like he's a h a human? Now I know this is going to be interesting because you don't believe in evolution. So it wouldn't have been an evolution. >> No >> switch. How would Bigfoot have come to be? >> Basically Bigfoot would have been Nephilim bloodline. If you read Genesis, there was a group of de and I fully believe every single word in the Bible by the way. Every single word from Genesis to Revelation. And so in the beginning uh near the beginning there was these things called Nephilim which were bred by demons coming to earth and breeding with literal women and they created these beasts which I believe are the myths like Hercules Bigfoot and stuff. Uh Goliath for example I believe King David literally slayed Goliath a almost 20 foot tall giant and they called them Nephilim. You call them Nephilim or giant, but because the world hates Jesus and hates the Bible, they're trying to make hide the existence of giants. So, if you haven't familiarized yourself with the existence of giant humanoid figures, you're behind. You're at like a kindergarten reading level. I mean, if you're going to sit here and tell me giants didn't exist, you know nothing about all the work the Smithsonian has done to hide the existence of giants. You haven't even re You don't even know what the Smithsonian is, I'm sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Let alone that the Smithsonian is the one telling you that giants don't exist and getting paid good money by the you know who to to tell you giants don't exist. Giants existed. I think they still exist and I think a remnant of that bloodline Nephilim possibly exists through Bigfoot. Now here's my debate is if there's Bigfoot is he good or is he evil? Because that's the only thing I care about. And I like to actually think that they're just form of Nephilim that got out into the woods that said, "I hate these other evil giant bastards. I don't want to harm humans, but I can't ever live with them because I'm not a human." And they live out in the woods by themselves. They wish to be left alone, but they they come and they help children. If some children are lost, there's been famous stories in Arkansas where children were found 25 miles from where they were lost untouched 5 days later, wellfed, but can't remember anything. I think Bigfoot exists, bro. And I've studied enough missing cases person missing person cases in Arkansas to conclude that something is happening that's beyond explanation of just intelligent human life form. There could be something else damn near supernatural out there or superhuman out there. That's so interesting. How how long do you think they live for and how how do they procreate and how do they find each other? cuz there's got to be enough of them, right, to kind of keep keep the population going. How do you think that works? >> Well, I believe that they have like almost thermal vision, so they could see us perfectly at night and they talk like oh like that. So they could speak for miles apart. I think they're like 10 times faster than me and you, bro. Like they could jump over our heads. They could throw a rock the size of a gun safe at us, you know? >> Wow. >> I mean, they could they could kill us with a rock. I mean, easily. I mean, I think that they're I think in Afghanistan, they're still up there in the in the mountains. >> The kind the Kandahar giants they talk about. Yeah, >> that's what I'm talking about. I think they're all over the world in secluded places. But here in Arkansas, I think the Bigfoots are friendly. I don't think they're demonic. But I also think if you mess with them, they'll probably kill you just because they're scared. They don't know what else to do if humans approach them. Well, it's interesting because you're kind of saying that if I can extrapolate, I think you're saying that they're Nephilim that found sort of a salvation through becoming preppers out in the woods and leaving their culture behind, which would have been sort of this centralized demonic force. I guess that David, I guess, ended with the Anakites. I think it was Anakites in the Bible that Goliath was descended from. And you're saying they just kind of went out and said, "We're just going to live in the nature." And they're just still out there doing it. >> That's what I I think some of these giants said, "Hey, I don't like these nefilm either. these Goliaths, you know what I mean? And they said, "Hey, I'm going to go out in the wild prep." They grew a lot of hair to stay cold in the winter, and they became half, half human. And I really think that they have >> uh conscious thoughts like very similar to ours. Like almost like might have a soul type of thing. Like like there might be like if there's Bigfoots, >> like if they're real, I believe like they might be judged like humans. Like they might go to heaven or hell. And I do believe in Bigfoot, bro. Like I believe he's there. And anybody that's not scared to go out those woods just a little or at least Okay, go out without a gun if you're not scared. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, bro, if you get out in those woods and you can't by yourself, come on, dude. You're not going to tell me that you're in total control out there. You're top of the food chain. We're like ants out there in those woods, bro. And there's forces that could just wipe us out out there. And >> I mean, just being cold out there will wipe me out much less. >> Oh, Bigfoot. Yeah. >> And a Bigfoot. Yeah. How do you think souls work? Do dogs have souls? Do whales do >> Oh, if the question is if Bigfoot has a soul, >> if Bigfoot might have some sort of consciousness, where's the line? Do ants Does bacteria bears? >> What about bears? What do you think? How how do you see that, >> man? That's very hard to say. There is a verse, I believe it's somewhere in Psalms, that talks about all things being preserved. Uh because like if you lose a cat or dog, man, it's just traumatic to think that you'll never see that cat or dog again. It really is. I don't believe that. I believe that they have I mean, they could be angels for all I know. Angels and fur, you know what I mean? But like seriously, I believe that they're up there dwelling with God. I don't know if my cat grew wings or not, you know, if my dog grew wings, but my dogs and cats that have passed away, I do have a innate feeling I'll see them again. And that they they might not be in the same form. They might have wings or whatever, but their presence will be known and they'll know my presence and I'll know theirs. And I and I know it's not equivalent to human life because we're the highest creation by God. That's literally stated in Genesis. So, I'm not putting a dog up to par with a human because God's like Christians can't believe that, man, because we're just we are different than them. But I do think that that God loves them and uh cherishes them and preserves them as that passage that I was and I don't have the passage memorized. I wish I did, but I forgot it for a while. But basically, I think God preserves all life. There might very well be trees and grass in heaven, >> you know, >> like like trees whose souls made it to heaven. Like that idea or >> like all tree, you know, like oak trees, cedar trees. It just just trees and grass. There might be it might be very similar to this earth, but it might not be. There >> there could be bears in heaven that don't eat us, you know, that just want to like, bro, how cool would that be? Yeah, just honey. Just honey and berries. >> That's what I'm saying. And we're just chilling like they're on your couch hanging out. It's what's up, Barry. You know what I mean? [laughter] In heaven, there's just no telling what it's going to be like because we we know we're not going to hunger and thirst and cry. We're not going to do these things like there's not going to be this these uh uh dissatisfaction, you know, in heaven. There's just not going to be everything's going to be provided for, taken care of by the host of all hosts, you know. Let's go back to those abduction cases where the kids go missing. Could that be aliens, UFOs? >> I mean, here's the thing is it could be aliens and UFOs. Uh, I personally do not believe in that as taught by the mainstream at all. Um, I believe that it starts out I believe that humans are the most intelligent life form ever created. ever. Period. And uh have we're made in the image of God where other creations aren't. And we're also closed within a sealed firmament. So if you take those two concepts, those two concepts, so humans, which are God's favorite creation here on this earth, he sealed us in a firmament. There's no room for other even more intelligent people to get in from anywhere because you can't cross that firmament. So, I do believe in that firmament. Now, the uh do I believe people are seeing what they're calling aliens? Yes. I don't believe that every person says I was abducted by aliens or I saw alien or I was touched by alien or I don't believe they're lying. I believe I literally believe them all. I think it's something that we're all calling aliens. It is actually something spiritual rather that can take physical form. I'm talking like powers of darkness like Satan himself sending minions. And a lot of people, I know this sounds crazy as well, but I've heard a study that a lot of people that that are being abducted by aliens, uh, in the middle of their abduction, they will speak the name of Jesus Christ, and the aliens will will flee from them. And so, if you're being abducted by aliens or attacked by any form of something, you don't know what it is. Cast it out in the name of Jesus. That's what happened to me. I encountered a demon. I casted out a demon uh for the first time ever in my life when I wasn't even a believer in God. And God says, "You can do that." In the New Testament, he says, "Many will cast out my name, will cast out demons in my name, but they will not inherit the kingdom of God." At that time, that's who I was. I casted out a demon in Jesus's name, but wasn't a Christian. I did that. Then I said, "God, why did you save me like that? Why did you remove that demon from my presence? I wasn't worthy of that." And then I started worshiping God. So, anyways, I believe in casting out demons and I believe that aliens are demons. And here's where I really have to go to, Austin. Here's the thing with the demon with the aliens being demons. This is why it all matters. Have you heard of Project Blue Beam? >> Yes. >> That's what it's going to our own government is going to attack us and say it was aliens. And then they're going to say, "Hey, we can keep you safe from aliens, but you got to get on the bus. You got to get on a train. You got to give up your guns. You got to come to our safe camps. But we'll protect you from the aliens." That's coming. And I don't care if you believe me. It doesn't matter. That's not what I'm trying to convince you right now is to believe me. When I heard about Project Blue Beam, I was 16 years old. I remember where I was and who told me, Logan Bell and Miss Henkins English class. And you know, I was 16 years old and he told me, "Yeah, it's called Project Blue Beam. The government's going to attack the United States with lasers and say aliens did it." >> And uh Yeah. And so what this all goes to is it basically since they started NASA, this is what I'm trying to say. Since they started NASA, the government 194748, whatever it was, the whole goal of NASA, the whole goal, the Earth is flat, brother. The sun and the moon are the same size. They circle the Earth. That's in the Bible. I can tell you all about it. It's called biblical cosmology. So we're in a firmament. NASA's whole goal is to convince people the firmament's not real. The sun and the moon are extraterrestrial bodies way out and that there could be intelligent life form that from anywhere that comes and gets us at any point because they knew at 40 1947 all it's going to take is about to 2025 we're going to slowly take about 100 years and we're going to start convincing them aliens are real. These things they can't see. They can't touch. They're more intelligent. They have no proof of them. They can't de you can't demonstrate where's an alien but you could oh they're everywhere. They're millions of years away. They're hundreds of millions of years away, but they also warp travel through warp speed and have technologies we don't. No, they don't. No, they don't. If something appears in the sky or appears in front of you like that, it's probably a demon and you need to cast it out in the name of Jesus Christ. Project Blue Beam is going to happen. And they're going to attack the United States and the world and say aliens did it. So, I heard about that. I'm 31 years old. I heard about that when I was 16 and I didn't believe it. That's 15 years ago. I didn't believe it for 10 years. Five years ago, I started believing Project Blooming. So, it actually took me 10 years to believe what my buddy Logan Bell told me was true. >> What was the convincing part? What What happened over that 10 years where you finally go, "Oh my gosh, this is what's happening." >> I found out the earth is flat. >> And once once you find out the earth is flat, we're in a firmament just like the Bible says in Genesis nine times in the front first page of the Bible firmament. It's mentioned nine times. We are literally sealed. That's why we have air pressure. You can't have air pressure without a container. And we have air pressure on this earth because pressure comes from a sealed gas. So the oxygen is sealed around us. We're sealed by a barrier. It's called the firmament. It separates. It's a water barrier. Literally water can. >> What do you think the firmament's made of? >> There's no telling. It's described in Job uh being like molten glass stretched out. I do believe that it's transucent. >> It would be plasma probably, wouldn't it? It would be like Robert Temple. Now we're talking >> style plasma. >> Now we're talking. >> Okay, it's solar wind plasma stuff. >> Something we don't know. Something we don't know that actually could be explained by the laws of science. We just don't know because yeah, >> there's no telling. >> Are the stars How far up does the water go past the fir beyond the firmament? There's water. >> Does that go on for forever or there stars behind that somehow? Are we in like a fish tank with water and we're a bubble underneath and above that are stars or where are the stars? How does it work? So in the Bible it says uh I believe in 119 120ish uh somewhere in there it talks about even before that it brings up the stars. You know I should have brought the Bible out for this but basically the sun, moon and the stars are the only heaven bodily heavenly bodies that there ever was. All these planets that they tell you about those are not like Mars is not a planet. It's not a thing you can walk on. I promise. Like I'm not guessing. >> It's a star or >> it's a it's a star. Mars is a star. You can zoom in on it with the telescope and see it blank. It's a light. It is a luminary. It is what the Bible says that it is. There's only three heavenly bodies. And I will tell you what they are. The sun, the moon, and the stars. There's not a a planet that doesn't exist with a with a moon or system of moons. This is it. This first page of the Bible. This is all there is. All there ever will be. This is all God created. And he put it great for us in King James. Sun. One sun only will be one sun. Only ever was sun. The sun is not a star. That's a differentiation. The sun. The moon. One moon. There's no planets with moons. There's no other moon. And the stars. That's it. There's no planets. Those are stars, bro. They're luminaries. They're they're objects made of light. And when you zoom in on them, the light not only um it's it's reflective, it oscillates. They uh vary in their intensity. They go from they're shaped like different things. There are some stars where you zoom in on them, they're shaped like a eyeball. There's another star you zoom in on it, it's a human figure, bro. You can see arms and legs. Like when you zoom in with the most powerful telescopes, way more powerful than Galileo had. You know, if you zoom in with the with the Nikon P1000 or P9000, bro, you can see figures in these stars. They might very well have consciousness. They are not. There's no such thing as another planet. And if you're a Christian, you need to know that that Mars is not a planet. It's not made of dirt. It is a star, just like the Bible says that it it is. >> That's really interesting what you said about stars maybe having consciousness. That's not the first time we've heard it even on this podcast. >> Oh, bro. It's a It's a fact, bro. They're watching us. >> What defines consciousness? What makes something conscious? >> That God has to breathe life into the dirt. He's the only creator of anything, bro. He just like can touch dirt and it comes to life. Do you think robots will ever have consciousness? >> No, they're man-made. They will have programs. They will not have free will. That's what I'm trying to get at. I don't think I don't believe I believe it's opposed to Christianity to to even insinuate that anybody can create free will other than God. We're not cap capable of it. Only God breathes free will into people and makes it possible. And he does it at the moment of their conception of their soul. >> Free what do you think about predestination then verse free will? Um, >> how does God God predetermines in this book? >> I think that anything >> that goes against free will is [ __ ] [laughter] >> We have free will and the atheist will tell you we don't. And predestination, yeah, God makes you and he knows what you're going to do. God already knows if you're going to heaven or hell. He's letting you live your life so you know why you go where you go. He already knows. He don't need you to live to tell you where you deserve to go. He knows what we're going to do. He knows if he if you're going to cheat on your wife. He knows where you're going to do it, who you're going to do it with, and he knows what's going to happen because of it. He's not going to stop you from doing it. And the same with any principle with with life itself. He knows where we're going already. Our life is for us to experience, to understand. And I think if we live in harmony with him, we'll have great lives. And if we don't, I think we're going to burn in hell. I really do. I think because this life we have the a free will to go towards that light and love and happiness and peace and prosperity or there's only one other way to go. It's a dichotomy. It's like you can't have left without right. You can't have up without down. He is pure love. He is pure happiness. He is pure prosperity. But you have to choose him. And if you don't choose him, he gave us free will to choose. And by nature, if you don't choose the the love and the happiness and prosperity, you have to hang out with people who worship death and hatred. And that's Satan. And that's the kingdom of death and perishing. >> Let's I want to go back to Project Blue Beam. Do you think the government has advanced technologies? >> I know that the government has advanced technologies. And I mean that's the best way of saying it. Advanced technologies. But you know because basically earthquake machines, lasers that can melt like entire states like >> free energy >> for absolutely. I believe I believe in the true black rock, the true north pole. You know, I believe in the true north pole, the true four corners of the earth. Just like the Bible says there are four corners of the earth. I believe in a true north pole and that's Black Rockck. I don't know if y'all have ever >> No. What's Black Rockck? >> Black Rockck is not the real estate company. That's what the real estate company named after to mock us. The real black rock is not real estate. The real black rock is true magnetic north. It's a >> It's an actual black rock in the north pole. >> It's the north. It's pole. It's why needles point north. Have you ever seen a magnet stick to anything that's not metal? >> What about the drift of the North Pole? >> It's It doesn't happen. What about the drift of the North Star? >> It doesn't happen. >> You're damn right. So, you're going to believe that these people that won't let you go to the North Pole legally, Google it. They won't let you legally go to the North Pole, you're going to believe them when they tell you the North Pole drifts, but you never seen it and they won't let you travel there. But the North Star that Bryce is telling you about, it ain't never moved in all of civilization. I'm telling you, right beneath that North Star, there is a North Pole, a true black rock. It's 20 miles high. It's a estimated three and a half. the people that have seen it, drawn it on maps and stuff. This is way back 1700s. It was legal to go up there. Uh people that drawn it out, they drew the four corners of the earth, which if you're above looking down, it looks like a cross. That's what's significant about it. You know, the window window spreadsheet, >> the window, >> windows background, it's got the four corners. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. The icon, the Windows logo. >> That's right. You know how that makes a cross? Uhhuh. >> That's what the four corners of the Earth are. The four corners of the Earth are directly at the North Pole. There are four water. >> The North Pole's the center of the cross. >> North Pole's the center with the tallest mountain in the world to this day. It's 20 m high in the air. It's called Black Rock. >> And it's like iron or something. So that way all of our magnets point towards it. >> It's something some magnetic. >> Most likely iron. >> Yeah. >> Some ferrris or whatever they call. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Right. Could be >> something black and magnetic. And okay, if for example, okay, you got a first grader here, never heard anything about compasses. and y'all were to tell her, "Hey, there's an invisible force that that alters every year in the earth every year and this magnet points somewhere a little bit different every year." And I was to tell her, "Hey, no, this compass always points to the same spot. It's never moved." And watch, I can prove it. And I take a magnet and stick it to something metal. And I say, "This is working because this needle is also it's metal. It's attracted to something metal." And there's a big metal object up there way far away. We can't see that it's attracted to just like this magnet. Bam. am and I stick a magnet on a fridge. A little kid would understand, oh, the magnet needs something metal. What do you What do you think the compass is pointing at? It's something metal, bro. It's not an invisible point in the ground that you would just look at and say, "Oh, it doesn't look like anything else spectacular." No, bro. There's a 20 foot 20 foot 20 mile high mountain called Black Rock, bro. And it hides free energy because magnetism is electricity. So, they are inverse. So, anything that admits magnetism is emitting free electricity. They're just backwards from each other. So, they are literally hiding the black rock because it is the it's I believe it's like God's free energy for the whole world. We were supposed to have it. We're supposed to have free energy. >> Tesla had a plan to give us all free energy wirelessly as well. All the way back in like the 1930s or 20s. >> Yes. >> But then Bob Lazar, are you familiar with Bob Lazar? >> Yes, I He he was on Rogan and he says something interesting where if we did have that free energy, we would have never created the um integrated circuits. We would never have chips at all because we would have so much magnetism going through there. It would have fried all of our circuits. We would have never been able to like do the controlled That's kind of interesting. >> Never would have had computers. >> Never would have had computers. That's what That's what Bob Lazar was saying. >> It's kind of interesting. >> That is very interesting. But look what we would have had and and that's a great point by Bob Lazar and it could be right. But what would we have had? You know how the the lights keep going out and he's overheating? The the cord was Bro, there wouldn't be cords. >> That's right. >> If Tesla had his way, we'd just snap and these lights would come on. It would be there'd be electricity. Our our phones would be charging in our pockets right now. He was sending electricity like radio waves for free. So, they shut that down. So, we know that's possible. I'm basically telling you Black Rockck does that. That's how compasses work off of free energy. Because if you understand the concept that literally and Bryce is not a scientist, but this is a fact. Magnetism is electricity. Electricity is magnetism. You can you have one, you have the other, bro. >> Guess what? A compass works for free, doesn't it? >> Mhm. Mhm. >> We have free electricity floating in the air right now. >> Yeah, I I think that is right. >> And ancient civilizations knew about it. That's why they be built cathedrals so intricately because cathedrals is a cathode. That's where the word comes from. Cathode. electric. >> Yeah. >> Cathedral. >> Yep. >> Um >> Okay. So, how old is the Earth is? Probably 6,000 years old. >> Earth is probably about 6,000 years old, something like that. >> Where did the Egyptian pyramids fall in that timeline? >> I think that the Egyptian pyramids would have been built somewhere around this time of Noah where you had this advanced civilization. A guy like Noah be a good old boy like us, kind of like outskirts, probably was a prepper trying to stay outside of the world. And I think that there was this super super advanced smart race of giants actually that could pick these stones up and uh Noah just kind of stood away from all this this worldly stuff like the pyramids and the cathedrals that they were building. But I think the giants built all these grand buildings because even cathedrals now they're so and the doors are 20 foot tall. >> Why would you have 20 foot tall doors? You know what I mean? If you built that for people and just had horses and buggies like you, you know, they're built these the pyramids, the cathedrals, the Tartarian infrastructure that's all across America. I I think there was a super civilization of something of along the line of Nephilim based off the Bible, bro. Like based off of what I see in scripture, this how I put this together. I think the Nephilim built the pyramids and all the and then God literally uh just like in the book of Enoch, he said, "Hey, come saw down these trees." cuz there was trees that were taller, you know, >> like trees up to this the clouds sort of idea. Okay. >> Exactly. >> So, Jack and the Beantock would be a like a sort of a fable from a real tale at some point >> from a long time ago. That's right. Because uh that's the only way that giants are going to have to have more food. If there were all these giants on the planet today, what would they eat? We can barely feed our own people. So, there must have been more food sources, bigger trees, bigger trees, bigger grass, bigger prey. Well, in the Jurassic period, we I mean there are bones in the ground of some like really big armadillos and even I think I heard a dragonfly this like six sloth the giant sloths. >> Yeah. >> So, if there were huge uh types of other animals, why wouldn't there have been huge humans? I've never understood why that's so weird to think. >> I believe there was. I believe that Adam was huge. I believe that Well, that's also I believe why they live to be a thousand years old. >> Do you have plans to kind of have a free energy machine on your farm eventually? >> Yes. And let me tell you about where it goes for free energy machine as in in terms of like that I know of effectiveness and like capability. I'll start out with some solar, you know what I mean? I'll get my solar panels going, get a good battery bank, see what I can power there. A steam generator. That's that's next for me personally. >> Uh because a lot of wood out here, a lot of wood. Now those are illegal. >> So they are. Yes, I'm going to make a steam generator and I'm not going to tell the government or tell nobody, but I'm going to have free electricity from a steam generator. probably being in 10 years from now, I'm going to move out into the woods and just run a steam. We wouldn't have power bills if we would literally just have a steam generator. Everybody could just put a log in every day and f and and literally power their home off of like one log or two logs. Steam is so powerful. So powerful. That's why the government literally said, "Nope, you can't have steam generators. They're too dangerous. They're too dangerous." Nope. They don't want you to know that you could power your home off of a log instead of paying their their madeup currency. You know, they want you as slave to their currency. They don't want you to know you can cut down a tree and that tree could power your house for a year. >> What do you see happening to the US dollar in the near future? >> US dollar's done. There's it's done, bro. It's cooked. It's We're just watch We're just watching it drift away. I don't know what's going to happen, but uh it's done, bro. There's no way. We have no leaders. we have a if we have uh some states succeeded, we could maybe have some states make a strong dollar based off of like for example, if Arkansas succeeded and the government said, "Okay, you're losing your social security. We're going to we're going to cut all your benefits. We're going to try to be the bad guys to you, Arkansas, cuz you succeeded." I say, "Okay, well, we're going to pump all the natural gas we [ __ ] want and we're going to create our dollar and back it buy our natural gas. We have trillions of dollars in natural gas right under our feet. Why are all the Aransens poor while these billionaires are raping our kids on an island? You know what I would do if I was leader of Arkansas? I'd say, "Okay, I don't want your federal government money and you're not ever going to touch my people again. You're not ever going to tax them." And then I'd drill as much natural gas as I could. I'd sell it to all these surrounding states for very cheap. And uh I probably wouldn't sell it for dollars to be honest. I probably trade it for other natural resources. I would literally trade natural gas for Texas beef or Texas corn or whatever. You know what I mean? Like I would >> local economy >> and establish a local economy based on um what's the word? Barter. That's we need a barter based economy. >> That's one way to help it. Barter when possible. But I I of course I believe in currency, man. I studied economics. I know anything can be used as currency. Are you a big fan of like von Mecy's kind of e economics or because we're in >> the Austrian Austrian? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. We [clears throat] got the Keynesian economics is now which is looking for 2% inflation and fiat currencies and then there's Keynesian uh uh Austrian economics which is more of the libertarian side where either backed by gold or something like that. It sounds like you're more in that line. >> Oh, definitely Austrian because all these Keynesians wrote like I wonder if this Kenzian was he Christian? >> I do not know. He was like 1920s. >> I don't know. >> It I don't know how a Christian could believe because you believe sin exists. So now you believe in the necess the necessity of a governing body and now you know that that governing body is going to be innately evil run by sinful humans. Like bro, Kenzian don't work because it gives power to the government to redistribute people's wealth. And I know in theory it sounds great, but Christians know sin exists. And anytime you give people control of other people's money, the sinful are going to take it. >> So you're into the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 on Jackal Island. And that's when we established the new the new dollar because we've had two or three dollars in our country's lifetime when Andrew Jackson killed uh the renewal of the bank. Um and then we rebooted it again in 1913. So these fiat currencies do eventually run away with crazy inflation, which I agree with you. In the last 5 years, we've lost about 50% of our purchasing power. >> No, it's only been like 3% to 7% inflation. >> Oh, excuse me. It's only inflating at 2% 2.3%. Yeah, >> guys, we can take out a 50-year mortgage now. It's okay. [laughter] That's right. >> Hey, I thought of the best idea yesterday. I was going to tell Trump I was thinking if we just post this on a podcast, maybe it'll make its way to Trump. >> It might. >> Well, let's just do 100year mortgages. >> That's right. >> Why not? >> Or 200 because 100's a little bit quick. >> That's right. I was thinking if we could just lump our cars, homes, food, life insurance, everything. If we could just finance it to the banks for 200 years, we'll pay the bank for our whole life >> and we'll live be about 70 in about three generations. Our kids lives might be paid for. And maybe Trump since he's introducing 50-year loans, maybe the 100 or 200year loan might actually interest him because I've done some economic studies and I think that 100 to 200year loan and let's not just mortgage the house and the car on it. Let's just put everything. Let's just put like their actual intrinsic value of their life. Let's just loan it to banks and do a 200-year loan. So for like three generations, you can pay off what you, you know, owe to the bank. >> You can already buy pizza on credit. Yeah. So you can put that on a payment system. Yeah. >> Well, that's what I'm talking about. Like literally everything on a credit system. So let's just let the banks own us for next 200 years and they'll provide everything pretty much. We'll get pizza on credit, ice cream on credit. >> Come on. They'll uh you know they'll have an incentive to help us keep living. You know they want to keep getting those payments. So maybe it's something Hamilton. Yeah. Get everybody involved in your debt. >> And it is true when mortgages were first introduced in the 1930s they were all seven-year mortgages and now here we are up to 30 and now we've extended it to 50. So it's just a part of this sort of this is Keynesian economics. >> Do you think that Bitcoin is even maybe a step in the right direction away from the Federal Reserve or do you think Bitcoin is just worthless? Well, it it's beyond worthless because what it is is that what it's really they're going to use crypto for is to they're going to take away the dollar. That's what we're saying. They're crashing the dollar on purpose. They're going to force digital currency on us. This is what the Bible talks about without saying it. Because when John had these dreams, he couldn't say, "Hey, Bitcoin's going to take over the US petro dollar and the US petro dollar is going to crash and the yen's going to take over and they're going to have more GDP." Do you think John could have told you that in Revelation? No. He said, "You're not going to be able to buy or sell unless you take the mark." The mark is the mark of digital currency, bro. You're going to have to take a mark to have your That's the I believe the dream that John saw is our generation being the currency being took being uh diverted into a chip and then the chip going into the body. And digital currency, all it is is it's making people who are Christians, who are extremely anti-market the beast, it's making them more comfortable with that next step closer to the mark of the beast. But I don't think crypto is a sin. I've got it. You know, I've got some crypto. I'll sell it here in a little while if I have to. >> Which crypto do you which cryptos do you like generally? >> I I did Bitcoin and Ethereum. I didn't know what I was doing and >> Yeah, they're the good they're the top two. Yeah. >> And that's what I did. And I just I just hold them. I don't even look at them. I just keep them on an account. And one of these days if I like break both my legs, I'm cashing them out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. There is a crypto community that is there are a few crypto communities that are hyperfocused on anonymity and being able to have something where we could trade without anybody be able to trace it ever. Monero is one of those. I I like to go to the Monero meet up in Mexico City. It's it's a wild group of sovereign individuals. I think there [clears throat] are crypto people out there that are trying to use it for good. >> Exactly. It it is a tool just like any other tool. It can be used for good and it can be used for evil. That's the point I want to make. But I think that the the the tremendous use that it has, the tremendous evil capability it has is like no other because it literally one person, >> one person can control everybody on the planet with a click of a button. And that is antichrist type of uh that's what the antichrist needs for these revelation prophecies to come true. A technology like that has to exist because it says one man will control everything. And if you don't take his mark, you can't buy or sell. That can only be done with digital currency. >> What do you think about the idea? Because I remember 20 years ago, everybody was talking about, well, in the circles I ran in, the mark of the beast was your social security number because it was very similar that you can't buy or sell, you can't open a bank account, you can't get a mortgage, you can't get a job. >> We're going all caps here. >> All caps. All caps. Lay out. Lay out for the audience on the name. >> Yeah. Even the idea that the government makes a corporation out of you every time you're born with your birth certificate and your name is in all caps. And so you as a sovereign, your name is not in all caps. Have you ever heard of this? And the idea of that >> it's definitely very similar the social security system. It uh number system. It creates the network that that need that the real mark of the beast needs to survive on. You see what I'm saying? So all of these things are just leading to the mark of the beast and they're very similar. That's why people have that gut feeling like, "Hey, this is evil. I shouldn't be numbered. I shouldn't be numbered like cattle. I shouldn't be in a database. I shouldn't have to have my currency controlled on an internet. I should be able to hold my currency. Like, we know these things are evil and we know they're heading towards evil capabilities. But no, social security is not, bro, because I didn't. That means I go to hell right now and I don't have a choice because I was given a social security number at birth. You will clearly be able to tell and have free will on whether or not you take the mark or don't. And I'm just telling you right now, anybody out there listening, when that mark of the beast comes, they're going to say, "You want to put it in your hand or your forehead? If you take that, you will go to hell for an eternity because you have took the mark of an evil bastard that wants to rule and enslave you. And you've bowed to him and you've kissed his ass like a coward. And God is not a coward. He is the best warrior with the best fighting spirit you've ever seen. And you will not live in his presence for an eternity with the mark of a corrupted evil beast on your flesh. You will burn in hell. That's chapter Revelation 13 and 14. Do not take the mark. Do not burn in hell. Just die. Just let them kill you, torture you to death, beat you to death. That's fine. God will show you mercy. He says that in Revelation chapter 13 and 14. All those who persevere on the day of judgment, bro. You're good. You get a white robe and you're going to go into battle with God. But if you take that mark of the beast, you're rotten in hell forever. And you deserve to because you're a coward. You stood you kissed the evil king's ass. And you I mean, look, it's going to destroy humanity, bro. That's it. That mark of the beast is what destroys humanity. It's there's no more humans ever after that point. As soon as everybody takes the mark, you don't get it, bro. There's no going back. It's game over. The robots are taken over and Elon Musk pushes a button and you're dead. They're going to shock the [ __ ] out of you with that chip. They're going to push a button. It's It's once everybody gets the chip, that's why Jesus has to come back. It's game over. We're this close. They almost got the whole world convinced to take the chip. I'M TELLING YOU, YOU TAKE THE CHIP, YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL. DON'T DO IT. >> And I love you guys. >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah, dude. I love the I love the passion. I do, too, man. >> Passion, bro. Jesus had passion, bro. That's why he died for us, cuz he loves us. And I'll tell y'all the truth. Because I'm going to look like a fool, but I don't care. I love you guys. I love everybody listening. Don't take that mark. Now, let me ask you about this. Since it says it's in the forehead or the hand right now, Elon, I know you've been outspoken against Elon. Right now, he's doing it in the back of the head. Let's say he keeps it in the back of the head and he never moves it to the forehead or the hand. That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says literally it's the forehead or the hand. What does that mean for you? >> I think that he'll probably move it to the front of the head or the hand. >> But if he offers it for the back cuz you know it is helping paraplegics and you know they're kind of getting >> what they say they're all they're it's all acting and stuff. They're acting like it helps and Elon's acting like a nice guy but he's not and it doesn't help you. It's to to control you. But yeah, that's what they're telling you and it's going in the back like you said. >> Yeah, this is a point of contention cuz I I currently still feel Elon's on our side. Like he's on the good side. He's on the side of life. I feel that way. >> But I understand that you don't and I I really appreciate hearing your your points on it because I don't know him. I don't know. I don't know Elon anybody. Never met the guy. >> Yeah. Never met the [laughter] guy. >> But it's curious. Are you open to the idea that he's on the he's on the side of good? >> Nope. >> Okay. What do you think happened with Doge? because it felt like he was going in to try and help this fiscal irresponsibility and to help some of those things and then it seems like he and Trump maybe even had a falling falling out and he may not like Trump and left or something like that. I mean, I don't know. >> Did you have any inkling of hope that Doge was going to be a helpful thing for the government? Do you know the Department of Government Efficiency for anyone watching that's not familiar with Doge? I I knew that Elon Musk was an evil bastard from day one. [laughter] And I know that he is. And I know that if he doesn't repent and turn to Jesus Christ, it's not going to be good for him when he dies. And I hope that he does. And I love you, Elon. I hope you repent. And I hope you join the kingdom of heaven because, you know, he dressed up in that satanic costume for Halloween. We know he's a Satanist. The real Christians, bro, they can look and they have that discernment. And here's the thing. It's like, bro, he knows the earth is flat. That's what I'm telling you. That's what's really that's >> because he has satellites. >> I know you you think you most people think Elon is actually in space. I know he's not. So that inherently puts me apart from other people because I know you're lying, bro. I got you. Space don't exist. You can't fool me. I got biblical discernment. Sun and moon circle the earth, bro. You're trying to tell me the other You're trying to tell me you left the firmament, Elon. you. He's trying to tell you he put a Tesla on Mars. So, this is what I say as a Christian. Do you believe in the firmament? Do you believe God's word? First page of Genesis, it separates waters above from below, as in we're in the below part, or do you believe that? Or do you believe Elon Musk that he went through God's firmament and put a a a Tesla on a planet? The Bible doesn't even say planets exist. There's no other planets. There's nothing but stars. Mars is a star. Zoom in on it with the telescope. It's a luminary, an oscillating, moving luminary, not a solid object. So, I know when Elon says, "Hey, I went to Mars." Bro, he's lying. But people don't get it. And then they say, "Well, why is flat Earth important? I don't get why flat Earth matters." It doesn't. It's stupid, bro. Why do you Because I know when Elon's full of [ __ ] and you don't. That's why it matters. I know he's an evil, evil bastard, and he wants you to take that chip so bad so he can press the button and you're dead, you know? And that that's what they want. >> Why does he want to kill everybody? >> Because the money doesn't mean everything, bro. They've already got the money. That the devil don't want the money. The devil don't want the money. He wants you to die. HE WANTS YOU DEAD AND TO GO TO HELL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST. THESE PEOPLE DON'T YOUR MONEY'S NOT ENOUGH. THEY'VE ALREADY GOT OUR MONEY. >> THEY'VE GOT ALL OF OUR MONEY. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THEY WANT TO KILL YOU. THEY WANT A CHIP IN YOUR HEAD. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT A CHIP IN OUR HEAD. THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT controlling you and killing you, bro. They've already got the money. They've got all the money in the world. They are coming to put chips in our head and kill us. That's what I'm trying to >> Could they just do it with drones >> or viruses or viruses? >> Could they just viruses? I mean, >> I think we have >> We just kind of Let's not go. We'll get into video [laughter] if we say that. >> Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. >> Yeah. >> To them, to Satan, >> we're like cockroaches. Humans are like cockroaches. If you're going to be Satan, and who does control this earth till Jesus comes back? That's in the Bible. Sickness. Yeah. >> Yes. Prince of darkness. We're like cockroaches to him. You ever sprayed cockroaches with some viruses? You ever sprayed them with poisons? Kills a lot of them. Do they go extinct? >> No. [clears throat] >> You ever bombed a cockroach? You ever burned them? You burn the house down. Does it kill every cockroach and you burn the house down? >> There ain't a bomb. >> Yeah. >> There ain't a poison. >> There ain't nothing. He's tried to gay us out so we kill ourselves. Satan's tried everything. The only thing, and I'm telling you, Satan's going to do to destroy humanity, he's going to put a chip in each one of us. Every single person is going to have a chip. And then, no, I'll be dead. He'll already cut my head off. >> The army of people with chips will come kill me. >> Oh, there we go. >> That's what happens. That's what has to happen. When every person gets a chip, one man can press the button. All humans are dead. That's the end goal. Game over. All humans dead. >> It's like The Kingsman. You ever see that movie? the Kingsman maybe. Spoiler alert. >> No, it's a couple of years old. But >> it was it was like a young kid joining a CIA. >> It was like a James Bond kind of thing. >> Yeah. But in England. He was >> in England. In England. He was British. Yeah. And I And And basically this billionaire gave out a bunch of free cell phones, free internet, free everything >> and they blew up >> and they put a chip in the back of their ear and then they all started blowing up. >> Yeah. >> Dude, it's like the pagers. Remember when they blew up the pagers recently? >> Just like when they blew up Charlie Kirk's lapel mic. >> Oh, is that what happened? >> Probably, bro. No exit wound. Come on, man. Come on, man. I shot some deer with that 30 six. It goes through, brother. >> I saw an exit wound come out of the neck. Or was that the entry wound you're saying? >> Some people are saying it was entry but no exit. That's what the corner said. The corner said there's entry but no exit. But I think that the just like the pagers who used the pagers. >> Yeah. Right. Right. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're real good with those >> mil some, you know, military people. Military. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. I think it was the lapel mic that got Charlie. >> Okay. Okay. >> I I think so. Just like the pagers got them other boys. I think the lapel might got Charlie. I think it's an inside job all the way up. >> How do you explain eclipses? Did the eclipse come through here in uh Did it ever hit Arkansas? >> We're going back to flat earth. >> I'm going back. Yeah, the total solar eclipse >> when the sun and moon. Okay. >> One overlaps the other cuz I I went to uh Missouri when it happened about a year and a half. >> I drove across the country to chase the eclipse. >> I really wanted to see it. I've never seen a total solar eclipse and it just sounded like a crazy thing that happens. >> Amazing. >> So amazing. >> Yeah. And so I just I had to see it and then I looked at it and then also they could tell you, you know, it's going through Texas and Austin and here they they literally tracked exactly where the full eclipse was going to be. >> Wait, so that is proof that the sun and moon are not at the same distance from the Earth because the the moon can pass in front of the sun. >> One had to get in front of the other. >> Is that right? They're not the same distance. >> How does it work? >> Or no, you No, I'm asking actually. >> Right. Right. This is what I love to answer too because this really will simplify it for y'all. Okay. Because we're in a ju position here. >> Okay. when you're just basically looking at that eclipse which the whole world watched right out there. I watched you had it here. >> This is Yes, sir. Yes, sir. about 2 minutes of total darkness. Yeah. The chickens went up in the roost and everything. >> Yeah. Did they really? Were the animals spooked, >> bro? I was spooked. Everything got real quiet. It was like there were noises and then as soon as it hit the temperature dropped like 10° >> all and the whole everything goes dark and all the animals were quiet >> and it just it was so eerie for a few minutes. >> What was going through your head? >> Here's number one thing that I want to bring up about this eclipse and I have a question for y'all. When that sun and that moon lined up perfectly, did they appear to be the same size? >> Yes. Right. I mean, I would have to assume. >> Yeah. I mean, it went right behind it and held and then the little sliver came out the other side. So, at least approximately, you know, >> I'm here to tell you they are. >> What your eyes see is correct. Anything else is uncchristian. It's satanic and it's [ __ ] [laughter] And that's there's no other the sun and the moon are the same size. That's when there's a perfect eclipse. They line up perfectly, block each other out there. What are the odds that one is 400 times further away, 96 million miles, the other is 212,000, and they happen to [ __ ] bro. They're on They're They're actually counterparts. Moon produces its own light. Does moonlight look like sunlight? No, cuz it's not. It's moonlight. It's cold in nature. It spoils food. Sunlight is hot. It preserves food. They have different qualities. They're >> The moon makes its own light. >> It for a fact, bro. That's It's illuminary. It's on the first page of Genesis, brother. All these Christians, you got to read it, bro. Christians, you got to understand it. It says the moon, the moon is its own source of light. This is stated in Genesis. It's a luminary. Sun, moon, and stars. There's only one sun. There's only one moon, and everything else is star. >> Wait, you got to help me out with this, though. Yes. If the moon passed in front of the sun, and they're the same size, then they must be relatively close together. >> Yes. >> Is that right? that they're they're relative >> because if if I hold my thumb in front of the light, my thumb's a lot smaller than that light, right? >> But I can almost cover it just if if it's far enough away. >> So now we're talking about two objects that are what we call local. >> They're relatively close to them. >> The sun is local. I can prove it in a 100 ways. Okay? And by local I mean not 96 million miles away. I mean relatively low to Earth actually in the clouds like a could be a couple thousand feet. And it varies in height throughout times of the day and throughout seasons. But I'm telling you that the Earth is very close and it's the same distance as the moon. It's why they look like they're the same distance apart because they are. Your eyes are right. It's okay. You can believe what the Bible says. You can believe what your eyes tell you. The Earth is not spinning 1,000 miles an hour. Ecclesiastes, this is Old Testament. First chapter of Ecclesiastes, it'll tell you the sun goes around us. It's like, come on, man. It says it over and over in the Bible. The sun comes around us. Christians, make up your mind. Denounce NASA. Tell them to go to hell. You know, tell them that they're the evil bastards that they are. Tell them project blue beam ain't going to work on you. You're not going to take the chip. The robots ain't t taking over the earth while we're here. This is die for your Christian way of life and and die for your beliefs. That's what we have to do, guys. And we can't even get Christians agreeing that the sun and the moon are the same size in the sky because some of them believe that they're billions of years. And uh I want everybody to unify and know NASA's full of [ __ ] And it's very biblical. It's very important. And I love Jesus Christ. And that's why I love to talk about this stuff because it matters. It's put in the Bible for a reason. In fact, the firmament, the sun, moon, and stars, that's on the first page. This is day one kindergarten material. If you don't know it, you are behind. You need to catch up, Christians. You need to understand we're in a firmament. We're not going to no Mars, bro. There ain't none. [laughter] >> Dude, you're ruining one of my favorite conspiracies, though, which is that there's buildings and obelisks on Mars. I love I love this. In Sidonia, some region on Mars, there's supposed to be civilizations. >> Let me tell you something more exciting. Can you ever get to oblisk on Mars? >> No. >> No. Let me tell you something. If I was a a type of leader could organize any type of exploration, I will call you and we will go to the true north pole. You can actually with with your own eyes, you can see the stuff I'm talking about. I'm not full of [ __ ] like Elon Musk. I will take you to that black rock in the North Pole. We can go to the firmament. We can go to that Antarctica and see what I'm talking about. All this [ __ ] that they're telling you, you can't get there. You have to have our spacecraft. No. The real exploration is as simple as getting in a boat and heading north or south. I'm telling you, it's very capable. I I think we could literally touch the firmament, me and you. There is more exploration to do on this earth. There's more exploration to do under the ocean. They've just tried to divert our attention to this fake outer space because they know if we find out the secrets of this earth, we're going to find out we are divinely created. We are unlike anything else on this earth ever. We are created in the image of God. No other create creature has ever been created like that. Don't worry, there's so much exploration to do, bro. >> I gotta run this thought past you. Okay, this is one of my deep held beliefs here. I just think of the Earth. I know. I'm just exposing myself, which I love. >> I want to hear it. >> Yeah, man. Well, I genuinely think that if you if the Earth were some sort of like spaceship. Now, we're going back to the Earth idea being a ball or it could be flat as No, it's it makes more sense if it's a ball. So, >> an object with dimension. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's an object with dimension. I just got to think if you build and imagine someone made it like it's made with intelligence. We can get on that page, I think. Would you >> It's got to be. >> It's got to be. >> It's got to be. >> Would you live on the outside of it or would you live on the inside of it? Because to me on if you live on the outside of a anything floating through space, you're exposed to all surface level events, which is all sorts of crazy stuff from space. I believe there's asteroids and solar flares and whatnot that can come. Also, if there were other species out there, they would be able to see you if you're on the outside. I It's like It's like building a house and then living on the roof. >> You wouldn't live on the roof. The reason you put a roof over your head is to protect yourself from the elements. Why wouldn't someone be living on the inside of the earth? Exact. Okay, this is where this is I believe in levels. Okay, let me get it straight for you real quick. Let me start from top to bottom. Let me go top to bottom. Who's most high? >> God. >> What do they call him? What's one of his nicknames in the Bible? >> Most high. >> Most high. >> Most high. He's got a bunch. >> If you ever heard anybody in their right mind ever address the God, the creator of our universe, you ever heard them come up to him and say, "Hey, most low. Oh, God. May I never address you like that?" WHY YOU THINK THEY CALL HIM MOST HIGH? WHY YOU THINK THEY CALL HIM MOST HIGH? CHRISTIANS, HE'S HIGH. HE'S UP. HELL'S DOWN. I think the hell they say, "Oh, when you dig hot, it get when you dig down it gets hot." That's hell, bro. I think you can probably hit hell with the shovel if you go down far enough. I believe in what you said, a layer with an earth with layers and levels. There is nothing. There ain't never been a gnat's ass higher. Nothing has been higher than the Lord. The Lord literally dwells in the spirit. The father sits and looks down. every description. When God swoops down on his chariots, held up by cherubam, angels with him, a whole crew of animals with him, he swoops down, he comes down, he ascends. >> You won't never see God coming up from the bottom, bro. That's where devil lives is down there in hell beneath our feet. Earth is in the middle. We're here in the middle. We're not in hell. We're not in heaven. After we die, we go up or down. That simple. Anybody that tries to tell you, well, science and this and that and B, they're full of [ __ ] It's up as high as the highest point up is God himself. He literally floats up there above the firmament. Just like the word of God says, the earth is his foottool. Just like it says, there is a firmament that separates us from him permanently and water between us and that firmament. Bro, it's ve I don't even know. I can't even comprehend all this stuff. I'm just telling you. Uh that's how it is. And uh but the earth has layers to it just like you said. >> Do you think do you think that the devil has cells and his cells go through mitosis and he's like a biological creature or like what's the physical representation if it's in this reality and God's up and the devil's down under the earth? Is it is he >> does the devil have cells? I never asked that before. >> And does it does he go through mitosis and does he does it shed skin cells and does it you know what I mean like a human like a like a dog like a tree? Like is it is it is the devil also that or is it some sort of like dimensional >> definitely dimensional like doesn't die or sleep or it's something like >> doesn't need energy like we need energy >> right right >> we got to eat food to get ATP so our cells pop and they keep going and whatever >> I don't think he's like that but I think he can possess people through the spirit >> he can kind of come in and go out >> just like he did to Judas it says that he was possessed by the literal devil so I think he's a spiritual entity that whenever he wants if the if the applicant is willing he can possess their bodies >> fully just like any spirit could any evil spirit could you know but Judas was possessed by the devil it says the devil possessed Judas not one of his minions not like the guy who is hellbent on destroying God and all remember that's that's Satan's goal is to kill God and his number one creation which is all humans and that's what he's trying to do. >> You went to Harding over here, right? >> I did. Yes, sir. >> Did you ever get any spats with professors? Did you like to debate your professors on anything? Any any Do you recall any spats you may have had with professors? >> Man, I'm so ashamed of who I was at Harding because uh I was totally not a Christian when I went to Harding. >> What's up, Mr. Tommy? >> Hey. >> What's up? >> Hey. Hey, come on in, brother. >> Oh, yeah. >> We're just filming over here. Come on in. Hey, Mr. Tommy. Tommy, >> that's the man with the plan. I heard you know a lot of stuff. >> He sure does. >> Good to meet you. >> Hey, Mr. Tommy. >> Good morning, brother. >> Boy, we I wish we get Mr. Tommy on film that you get some real educational stuff. >> Yeah, [laughter] we can. We can. >> Oh, that's great. >> If if you'd like to, he he'll answer any questions. >> Yeah, man. >> Tommy is the backbone of this farm. I'm telling you. He's There ain't nothing he can't do. He welds, operates. He's >> Oh, that's incredible. He's a farmer. He's a farm boy. >> Oh yeah. >> How'd you meet him? >> Um his son was doing some work for me and and I love his son. His name is Bon and he was working in a bathroom and he fell off the ladder and went through the wall and it was a tile wall >> and uh I've never done tile walls. Um I just don't like doing stuff like that, intricate stuff. I was like, "Oh my gosh, we're going to have to hire expert." Bond says, "Hey, my dad can fix it." I says, "All right, well, okay, just please have your dad fix it. You know, we'll pay him and all that." And uh we kept going about work. Well, the next day, Mr. Tommy comes over, fixes up the wall. I said, "Well, that sure was quick and that sure was uh pretty dang good, Mr. Tommy. I mean, it looks perfect." I said, "Do you want to work tomorrow, Mr. Tommy?" And he said, "Yeah." I said, "Okay." You know, and then we we were repairing a uh a rental home at the time. And then uh Mr. Tommy helped with that. And I said, "Mr. Tommy, I've got a lot of stuff at my place. I was still building my house, still just working on a lot of farm stuff. I said, "Would you like to come to the farm, Mr. Tommy?" And just do anything. You work as long as you want, Mr. Tommy. And he said, "Yeah, let's do it." He loves operating equipment. He loves uh fixing equipment. His specialty uh by far, well, it has to be equipment because he's so good at that. But also, he you can't teach this either have or you don't. Nurturing of animals. He has that instinct like he's saved multiple animals out here. Uh yeah. So he has a very caring spirit. That's what makes him better than anybody is Mr. Tommy is his his nurturing spirit towards animals, but he loves equipment. He wants to get on uh diesels and drive diesels all day long. And I think he gets happy if something breaks cuz he like he's good at fixing it. You know, it's never a dull moment with Mr. Tommy. >> Yeah. This really is a working shop. Mr. Tommy just came in and just grabbed a tool and headed on back out. So >> Yes, sir. It's a workshop. I mean, we are trying to feed the army of the Lord here. That's what this is about is feeding anybody who wants to fight this this evil. >> So, you were saying about your professors at Harding. >> Do you have any spats? >> I'm so ashamed of who I was at Harding because I wasn't a Christian. I would argue with the professors. I remember uh Mr. Sheldon uh Shelton, sorry. Uh Jim Shelton, uh we were in a class called business ethics. Uh I did a a case study. My my project was over the Ford Pinto and I had to study whether or not it was ethical and Lee Ioka you piece of [ __ ] [laughter] you burned so many Americans alive man for because of that Ford Pinto but the Ford Pinto why it's a business ethics case study is because Ford less than a dollar could have moved the gas tank further away from the bumper 99% of bumper collisions which is where most car accidents are like even at a traffic light at a 20 mph an hour 99% ignition rate. >> Yeah, they had designed it to where the the gas tank was right behind the back seat >> and it would it would hit the metal would bend and spark >> and it would blow up the gas tank >> and it would project the fuel >> into the cabin >> into the driver's back and so they burned hundreds of uh I'm I'm sure I don't know the numbers but a lot of people >> when they knew about it >> burned to death >> they found out about it. >> Yeah, they knew about it. Yeah. Ayakoka said I don't care you know we're just going to sell more of them. That's you know he didn't care. He was killing us customers. uh Lioka, he he's a piece of [ __ ] And uh >> so you do this study on the Pinto and you're talking to your professor, >> right? And so then I remember one day debating does morality even exist? And as an atheist, somebody who did not believe in God because I believed in Mars and Jupiter and Saturn and the Big Bang. I believed in all I believed in evolution, bro. They the devil tricked me, bro. I'm not that smart. I'm not going to act like I'm smart. The devil tricked me. I was a total fool. I had a midlife crisis, whatever you call it, where you turn around and say, "Holy [ __ ] everything I know is fake and I have to love God." You know what I mean? And I had one of those moments, but basically, this is before that. So, I'm trying to argue with my professor telling him that there's no morality. That means killing, rape, anything is just an opinion. And so, he I mean, I had that debate. I was like, "Well, you can't prove to me on paper that it's wrong." And he said, "Well, you think rape is bad?" And I said, "Well, I'm not saying it is or isn't. I'm just saying you can't prove it." And he's like, "Well, I can't prove it with the mathematical equation, but the existence of God, because God exists, I know there's morality, and what he says is right is right, and what's wrong is wrong." And I said, "No, there you can't even prove God exists." That's what I said to him. I was so wrong. But but here's the fundamental thing is if you're non-Christian, you cannot believe in free will and you cannot believe in morality. >> Because how would you deduce it? Yeah. What would you build it on? >> Without morality, oh, I'm sorry, without God, there's no morality. Without God, there's no free will. So if you literally so much as believe that there's anything right or wrong, whether it be rape or killing or if you believe in morality, >> you believe in God. >> If you believe in free will, that you have the ability to say, "I want to make a sandwich and eat it." It's that simple. If you think you can make up your mind and to do something, now if you think you're predetermined to eat the sandwich and you have no choice, that's all [ __ ] I'm just telling you, if you believe I can make a [ __ ] sandwich and eat it when I want, that's my free choice. Then you believe in God because the free will to make a sandwich. >> Wow. >> Implies the creator. He gave you an option of a soul. You have a soul. With free will implies the ability of a soul. Atheists don't believe in a soul. There cannot be free will without a soul. You see what I mean? The moment you were conceived by God gave you a soul. Free will came into existence. If you don't believe in your soul, you cannot believe in free will. We're simply a being reacting on chemicals. Chemicals in our brain. There's no there's no soul telling us what >> it's a very uh I think therefore I am type of uh mentality. >> Yeah. And as an atheist, I struggle with that because I trusted the school system. I went to public schools. I didn't have a good father in the home. I have a lot of excuses. But basically, I rejected God. And we can say it's all these exterior forces, which they were. The devil was at play. But when God gave me plenty of time in my circumstance to call on him, you know what I mean? He gave me the time I needed cuz uh there most of my life I didn't believe in God and I would have died and gone to hell. So he protected me. >> What sort of house were you coming out of? What was your dad like? What were your parents like? >> Uh single single mom. Never seen my dad. Um and then uh you know I would go to church but it was more peer pressure to believe in God when I got there. You know what I mean? >> Cultural pressure kind of. >> I I was peer pressured to believe in God. Like oh you what do you mean you don't believe in God, Bryce? And I was like well I don't see him. You know I don't what do you mean God? Where's he at? you know, how do I talk to him? You know, and didn't believe in God for a long, long time. And as I got older in my teenages, I started saying, being comfortable saying, "No, I don't truly believe. I don't I've never seen God. Never talked to him." And I would, when I was a teenager, I would tell people, you know, I don't believe in God. >> Have you ever tried to track your dad down? >> No, he's not worth it. You know, if he's in heaven, I'll see him there. >> Okay. >> And I pray that he is, man, because I have a feeling that uh he might not be, you know. So, pray for him. Are y'all out there? Pray for them. You know, I love them. I care about them. I don't wish no harm upon them. >> Oh, I wanted to ask, man. I saw you on Tucker. I think your most recent Tucker interview. You ask for prayer for someone nearby here. >> He healed, bro. >> Hey, I was going to ask what happened. Yeah. >> Phil Canon. >> Phil Canon. >> PBD. From the PBD. >> Oh, that was a PBD podcast. Yeah. >> Totally healed. And check out what was wrong with him. He got a tick bite. They didn't know what it was. They found out it was a tick back. Tick bite. Totally shut him down. Like messed up his whole nervous system. They're thinking, "Is he got cancer? Is he what?" Like what's going on? Like he's um tick bite. All the symptoms went away in like a couple weeks, bro. Just all that healing, bro, from the prayer. >> Yeah. Oh man. Okay, I want to ask you a question. Uh and I don't want you to take it easy on me on this one. Okay. >> Okay. I [laughter] love these questions, bro. You are the best at these questions. >> Oh man, thanks for honestly, thanks for being just open to talk about whatever because that's what we always do all the time. >> Yeah. Yeah. We just talk freely. Yeah. >> I have a feeling this ain't our last podcast. >> Oh man. Man, >> I hope so. I like that feeling. Hope not. Yeah. We'd love to come back. I can roll. >> I am. >> Let's do it, brother. State champ from North Carolina. >> That's right. >> He still got it. That old dog. >> Well, I think I'm going to knock myself down in the ranks here. I'm mostly vegan. >> And I want you to talk I want you to lay into it. What do you think about veganism in general? >> I think that you need to get the most iron as possible out of red meat. Iron specifically, but any other nutrient. I think that there is uh so many dense nutrients in it that will literally help you create more children, stronger children. Like it will help your semen production like everything from like uh from literally making your children a little bit just stronger and just uh you know they need those those proteins and stuff for their brain. So it not only help you, it will literally help your children to eat the to eat that red meat. There is nothing ethically wrong with it. And I know that's hard to deduce, but it comes down to this. If you really believe that first page of the Bible, it says on the first page as well that we were created on the sixth day because we are the he saved the best for last and we have true domain. And so when God gives us domain over animals in in Genesis, domain means we can eat when we choose because we feel like it. You can even be a little bit full and eat even an extra bite and you're not going to go to hell. Yeah, you can really fulfill yourself, but you can. They are your domain. Animals are our domain. I believe the word of the Bible. I believe that we are a higher rank than these animals and I also farm them. And I know how dumb they are and compared to us and and they're beautiful. They're not. They are beautiful and I love them and I would die for my cows. I'm not kidding you. Wait to see what happens if the government comes over here and messes with these cows. The Civil War is going to start that day. I'm telling you, they're [laughter] not going to do to my cows what they done to these ostriches in Canada. >> Oh yeah, I saw that. >> But when I >> Wait, what happened to the ostriches in Canada? >> Killed them all just because they wanted to. >> There was some aven There's There's a pack of 350 ostriches. It was a farm and I think two of them had died a year prior and had aven bird flu a year ago. and it was contained and gone. And the government was decided that they were just gonna whack all the ostriches. And so then these guys, they basically come in and they start shooting them all. They don't even euthanize all these ostriches. They just >> shoot [snorts] them straight up. >> Just shoot them straight up, which is against the law. They say that's not how you're supposed to put animals down. And you know, they they just >> they did a they did a lot of the processes were not well vetted. But yeah, they just went in and shot all the ostriches on this whole farm because a year ago, two of them that had died had kind of tested positive. So for some like >> something about the aven bird flu, but it was contained and it was fine. It just was this >> and that's the lie that they're pushing. That is the mainstream narrative, but that's the lie they're pushing. The real thing is there were healing properties found in these ostrich eggs. And this particular ostrich farm was one of the largest in Canada. And it had enough eggs that are worth like thousands of dollars a piece or whatever. had enough eggs to actually donate to research. So, they were doing medical research with these eggs and who to control the pharmaceutical value of these eggs to get them off the market. They just [ __ ] killed all the ostriches. That's what really happened. And go ahead, go down a rabbit hole. Call me crazy, but that's what you'll find out is that the the owners of that farm will literally using the eggs for medical research. >> Ostrich eggs have healing properties. >> They cure Corona virus. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Whoa. Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah, they they were they were doing medical research with the eggs. That's why they made a big deal about it. And they're going to say it's oh to prevent the spread of bird flu to other birds. Were there other ostriches in the area? They're going to get sick, bro. That was it own little ostrich farm. >> 300 something ostriches by themselves. They were they were using those eggs for medical research and they wanted to shut that down. >> And uh Absolutely. And so uh back to cows basically and eating meat in general. Yeah. You know, it's like I won't let them do that to my cows. I value my cows. I love them. They're part of my life and I respect them the utmost. I would never harm a cow other than when I put it down and I put it down with one shot to the head with 300 six and it doesn't even know it's dead. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, okay. So, let's think about this. We have >> I really think that it's necessary. I've said this before. I think it's necessary that every human if you agree with eating meat that you should butcher something once in your life because I actually think to your point, you respect your cows. You know them. you see them every day like there that gives you this reverence for meat if you're going to eat meat that I don't think most Americans certainly have because you go to the grocery store and it's wrapped in cellophane and you just don't know. I don't say you have to do it your whole life or like for the whole thing. But I do think there is some worth if you're going to say I think it's okay to eat meat. I think you should be willing to butcher a cow or a chicken or something just so you actually see what it's like and then because you might do that and maybe you think differently. >> Maybe you think hey I don't want to do this. I don't like this. Yeah, that's you. >> That's how a lot of people get >> for sure. >> More character either way. >> Absolutely. But the fact that you do and now you know and I respect it is what I'm saying is. Yeah. I think it's awesome. >> Yeah. I think mostly I'm just against the factory farming, you know, the the cruel conditions like the way that you're raising cows and stuff cuz as a vegan even the reason I started doing it was and to be totally transparent, I was on a mushroom trip and I was looking at a dog and I just thought like what right do I have to to how who am I to decide that your life is time for it to come to an end rather than nature? But then the more that I've been a vegan, the more I realized the same applies to plants. I don't know how alive a tree is. I don't know what it looks like to be a tree. I don't think there's a moral argument to be a vegan anymore. Honestly, now at this point I kind of do it for health because well kind of your stomach changes like you know my my diet's changed but I like it. I like the way I feel. I have better long-term cardio. I've been doing a lot of like long distance running. It seems to be better on probably because I'm not getting the factory farm meats as much. So I'm not getting the hormones. >> It's a reduction of something bad as opposed to >> I think that's what it is. Yeah. So I'm not I'm not like a militant vegan or even a moral vegan at this point. It's more of just a lifestyle. But >> right, your actual gut is literally used to eating that. That's what makes you feel good. >> You put a little bit of milk in in the coffee that you gave me, it was delicious. And I I believe that if anyone offers you something in good, you know, with with a kind heart, you take it. I Because it says that in the Bible. Paul says that if you're with the meateers, you eat >> meat. And if you're not same way, bro, when I go over grandma's house, I'm eating cookies, bro. >> Yeah, man. That's right. >> Yeah. But I could already feel it in my stomach. I can already feel the milk a little bit. >> We'll just do one cup then. >> Yeah. That's great. That's great. Yeah. And it was delicious, by the way. >> Thank you so much. Little bit of Arkansas honey and some milk in there. Sweeten up that coffee for you. That's how I love it. Cuz I was starting to uh need to bulk up for my 45 days. Sure. >> And so I was trying to add calories. So coach said, "Put that milk and honey in that coffee, son. Get big." >> You know, and uh started doing that. >> Yeah. You bulk old school, don't you? It's like peanut butter and jellies and milk. And >> Yeah. I stopped doing that for 35 cuz now I just started saying, "Hey, no more bulking. I'm just dropping a weight class." And it's much easier for me, bro, to do that cuz I was trying so hard to bulk with them PB&Js. And um but here's here's one more thing about this beef. I say is um these cows when you farm them. There is one cow out there who is eerily eerily conscious like friendly like walks up to you and wants pet and like actually him. No dude, I'm never he's getting a full natural life. But he's the bull twister and he's the only one that does that. the rest of them um are very kind of uh shy. They they they're more like farm animals, you know what I mean? And like the more you work around these animals, the more you Now, I'm not saying that I don't think they're beautiful. They have not lost that perspective of them. They're beautiful. They're m majestic. They really are, bro. But, uh the more you work around them, you start to realize they [ __ ] where they eat. They lay in their [ __ ] They'll stomp on your head. If you put a baby out here, they would probably roll over on your baby and kill it. like they're just not human. They're not up to par with us. Even the best bull I ever have, he doesn't get to come in the house. >> You see what I'm saying? It's like it's I give them the best life I can, but that's out in that pasture. You know what I mean? Away from us. We're not meant to live in them and w with them. And they're just So, the more you work around them, I think you'll actually get the idea of, hey, like these are actually what God created. Their only purpose is to feed us really, really good quality food. And I think if you slowly introduce that meat back into your diet, you will um your body will really really like it. And the good thing about the meat, bro, is that you don't have to eat as much. >> You know what I mean? You can just really take a >> a steak a week would be a good start. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For when you're trying to adjust back if you want to go uh we could start right now. I could whip you up a steak and you just have a bite of it. You know, >> you know what I do eat is eggs. >> Eggs. That's perfect, bro. You have to have those eggs. I agree. >> Yeah. gotten back into eggs because well, I felt it. I just felt I was missing something. And I travel a lot, so it's kind of hard to keep a really regimented diet. And I know there's some bodybuilder vegans that'll say, "Oh, you don't need anything like that." And they're probably right. They look really strong. But for me, when I was traveling, the eggs give me so much. And I was really thinking about it's like most eggs aren't fertilized. They're not even trying to become chickens. A lot of eggs just are sitting out there and they're just going to get scooped up or squashed or whatever >> eaten by another eaten by an animal >> eaten. So >> yeah, if you don't eat them, they have a very short shelf life. you're doing the whole process a favor to eat those eggs. You're keeping those chickens >> uh keeping their keeping the farmers paid and then the farmers keep the chickens fed. So >> yeah, >> uh you know, it's there's no moral objection with with eating meat. It's it's all about how do you farm the meat? This is what it goes down to. Like you say, a factory farmer, they're scumbags. Tyson chicken scumbags, bro. Tyson chicken scumbags. Get old Tyson boy right here in this under these mats. I'll tell him right through his face [laughter] cuz of how you run your chickens. Your chicken [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> I hope you get locked in the cage for eternity and smell [ __ ] for your whole life cuz that's how you treat these chickens. Look at my birds, bro. >> Yeah, man. >> I mean, I could live in that chicken coop. >> Yeah. >> Especially after Mr. Tommy's done stuffing hay in it and wrapping it in plastic today. It's a good quality life, bro. You're not going to go back to my chicken coop and tell me these birds ain't happy. Look at them. They come. Why do they come to you? Oh, if I'm so scary, if I'm the big killer and I'm the farmer that kills everybody and brings death, how come every animal out here runs to me and loves me, >> right? >> You know, these animals love their life and I love having them. >> It's incredible. Well, and the animals might not have a place to live if you weren't >> Where do you think these cows would live if it if they wouldn't farm? There wouldn't be no cows, bro. They're dead. >> That's right. >> They're dead. And there was bison running the plains and stuff. And that's what I love about the Native Americans is they didn't need all this money and this and that. They just literally lived off the cow. That cow is a way of life. You could live off that cow alone. The Native Americans did it a long time. >> But the white man came and he brought his currency and it, you know, that's going to bring about the technology that brings us to demise and Jesus coming back. [laughter] >> But I appreciate the Native Americans way of life. I appreciate the white man's way of life. I love it all. I love all life. I love all diversity. And uh >> well, this idea of being more in touch with nature, this brings up a different point I want to bring up. What how do you feel about wiping your ass with leaves? because I think it's a really important part of existing in nature to be honest. Actually, here's what I really think. I think every part of the human body has has some sort of talent. You know, your skin can absorb sun, this, and that. >> Exactly. >> I honestly believe your anus probably can absorb some information from local leaves if you wipe your butt with them. >> Poison ivy, it definitely will. [laughter] >> See, and and if you're out there wiping with different leaves, you'll figure out which ones you shouldn't use and which ones are good. I bet I bet that you can read information off the leaves. I really feel that way. I guarantee to this day I don't know what poison ivy looks like >> really. >> I guarantee I wipe my butt with it. I'd find out. >> That's [laughter] right. >> Because I've never been poisonous to it. Like I've never been affected by it. >> You're not allergic to it. >> I've never paid no attention to it. Now I'm not saying I'm just a badass or whatever. I'm just I'm just Mr. Invincible, but I'm just saying Poison Ivy ain't [ __ ] >> I'm just saying like it's never bothered me. It's never made my >> eyes now. I don't know. Uh maybe it would if I was surrounded by it, but I've never had a problem with the poison ivy or whatever. But >> right, >> you know, but start rubbing it on your skin. I I might change my answer, but uh I do have a lot of allergies, but they're grass allergies. They're not the poison ivy. >> That's cuz you don't how do you [ __ ] outside on a regular basis? I'm going to encourage you. >> Not on a regular basis, [laughter] but I have in times of duress. And I 100% recommend it. >> I really think if society did it, man, because you learn your squat stance. First of all, most people can't squat. I I mean in the general public, you know, but you learn your squat stance, you learn how to pee outside, you learn which leaves work. I'm just I'm just saying it's something to consider. Maybe poop outside. >> Well, I totally agree. The worst thing I've ever done is use dry leaves. >> You know what I'm saying? Yeah. >> Oh, yeah, man. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, when you're taking dump outside, you have to know what type of grass or leaves to use. And I'm agre I'm agreeing with you. On a squat stance, there's not a better uh position from that like your feet up here like this. This is >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, man. Exactly. Yeah. That's how you're actually pooped the best. >> Straightens out that colon with this. Yep. >> Straightens out your energy. You just you the old poop shoot opens up. [laughter] >> Yeah, man. >> You know what I mean? >> Very effective. >> Oh man. I was on a run recently though was like I was probably like 20 miles. I was 10 miles out there. Took a poop. Found some nice They were like look like fluffy leaves. I I wiped with the fluffy side. Turns out there's a bunch of like wax on it. So I end up waxing and then it's real sticky. Dude, I'm telling you. Chafing like you never imagined. [laughter] So >> finish the run. >> Yeah, I did. Well, I had to get back. Like, that's the thing. You run out there, you can't you got to come back, >> bro. That's not the time to experiment. >> I didn't think I was. >> You should have stayed with oak [laughter] or >> cedar, right? >> That just cedar needles, I guess. >> Cedar needles be no good. Yeah, that's right. >> Um, I saw you have Theo Vaughn on the wall here. Uh, what was it like being around Theo, >> bro? He's the best. I mean, he is literally he's the most friendly of all the superstars that I know. I mean, he is like if I if I actually hollered to him and said, "Hey, my leg is broke. I need some help." I think out of all superstars I know, Theo is the one that's like, "Well, where are you at?" Because I'm going to come pick you up. I think he would. I really think if I broke my leg and I called him, he would not even [ __ ] me. Especially if I was in Tennessee, if I was in Nashville and I wrecked my car, had a broke leg, I'd be like, "Hey, Theo, are you in town, bro? I need you to come get me." I I'm [ __ ] up. I'm on the side of road in Nashville. Are you in town? I Bro, I know he would. How did you get to know him? How did you meet him? >> Um met Theo. Uh oh, he reached out to my old manager. His name is Matt Wyel and he just hollered, I think, on social media and said, "Hey, would you like to get on my podcast?" And um at the time he was still his podcast was very popular because I knew who he was, but he wasn't as um what he is today. You know, it's just since then, that's 5 years ago. He's even skyrocketed further since then. And I thought he was hot [ __ ] back in the day. Now he's in the mainstream, bro. He's all around the world now. So that was five years ago and uh just got to meet him and then went on again and got his number and just really like him. >> He seems like one of those guys who's not even trying to be funny. He's just his personality is so amusing to the rest of us that he's just got to be him and that's that's it. >> Is he pretty much the same off camera as on camera? >> He turns it up on camera and he definitely tries to be funny. He tries very hard. He tries as hard as physically possible to be funny. He is extremely smart. People have no clue. >> Yeah. >> They just have no clue how smart you have to be to act that dumb. >> He's nailing it, man. >> He's nailing it. He acts like he's dumb. Bro, he's so smart to act like that and convince other people you're actually dumb, that you're smarter than to convince some He's smarter than all these people listening, but he's got them convinced that he's dumber so they get to laugh at him as a dummy. No, bro. He's a He's a genius of comedy. He's an actual genius comic. I can tell when he's trying and when he's not. And when he's not trying, he is still funny, but on camera, he's trying. He's just like any other comic. He is he he tries. He excels. >> Well, yeah. I've heard I heard a breakdown of George W. Bush once. This political analyst was saying that he has something called the southern slow draw, >> which specifically he's trying to make his enemies think that he's dumber than he is. >> So that you know, it's an upper hand if somebody underestimates you. >> I I always use that negotiating tactics. That's the first thing I do if I get pulled over is I act stupid. You know, you sound a little bit more southern and hey, hey, officer, you know. >> Sorry, my mom took a lot of Tylenol. I'm sorry, officer. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I seriously do this all the time. I act a little bit stupid, you know. Uh uh uh act a little flustered whenever you need to negotiate something, whenever you're in a pinch. It's phenomenal tactic. Act stupid. Don't ever act like you're the smartest guy in the room, unless if there's something you're trying to, you know, stir up the pot. You know, it's so easy to avoid conflict by just acting stupid. It's the best tactic ever, bro. >> Oh, it is. Yeah. And in Mexico, man, like whenever I get stopped by the cops for any reason, I do not speak Spanish. That's right. I've been living there for a long time, so I do speak pretty good Spanish, but not if a cop's around, man, because they don't want to deal with the paperwork. They don't want to have to translate through and get it get it to you, you know. >> Exactly. You smile at him, say, "Hey, you know." Right. >> Right. >> What's it been like being around Tucker? Because I know you named your son Tucker. Yeah. And that's how you via Tucker you met your wife. That's right. >> And so he seemed to have had a he's had a big part in your your journey. And so what how it seems like you're obviously a fan, but what's it been like being around Tucker behind the scenes? >> Yeah. First foremost, I'm just a fan just like everybody is that watches him. Man, I just watched him for a long long time and then after one of the UFC interviews, I said something political. I think he agreed with what I said. It was at the Ukraine war is [ __ ] and it's going to kill Americans. And he wanted me to say on his show live and I went on there and I said, "I think this war is for Joe Biden's son to launder money so they can kill Americans on our tax dollar but make themselves filthy rich." Tucker loved it. They aired that on Fox and then Aaron saw it, my wife. That's how met Aaron. So without Tucker invite me on his show, I never meet Aaron and I never have a son, bro. That's >> That's incredible. >> That's That's incredible. That's beyond what I can comprehend. That's God up there knitting everything like a perfect little sweater. You know what I mean? Like, >> have you met Tucker off camera as well? >> Absolutely. >> Is Tucker real? Is he as real as >> Oh, he's legit, bro. He's He's legit, you know? And I text him, too, and I try not to bother him, but he sends me his tobacco, his AOPs, his lip pillows, and I tell him thank you every time he sends me a pouch, you know. And, bro, those things are strong and they're very effective if you do Yeah. AOP. So, I'm going to hook his brand up. >> I haven't tried one yet. Yeah. I was hooked on Zens just just quit like two months ago month ago. >> Here's the bad thing about Zens is they're uh they're that that uh basically cancel culture kind of like like big monopoly type company like take over and suppress everything because this is what happened. This is why Tucker started ALP and uh he was doing a Zen and he made a joke on a podcast and he said, "Hey, these Zins help me get up for my old lady." You know, and he said that as a joke, bro, which like >> Tucker said that >> he's probably not joking. You know what I mean? [laughter] They give him a little buzz. >> That's why it's so funny cuz it's not a joke. >> All right, bro. Knuckle bump. You know what I mean? Like, gotcha. Funny. >> You know what I mean? Okay. Show goes on. Guess what? They sent him a persist. Uh, or did what? >> Cease and desist. >> Cease and desist. Yeah. Not pursu. Cease and persist. [laughter] Cease and persist. >> Cease and persist. >> A cease and desist. They give him a cease and desist order. And they said, "Hey, you cannot say our product has any influence on your sexual activity with you and your wife. If you ever say this again, we are suing you. And if you do not take back your statement for real." >> Yeah. And he was like, "I'm not taking it back. They do help me get up with my old lady [laughter] and [ __ ] you, I'm starting my own brand. And that's why he started ALP because Zen threatened to sue him for literally advertising their product. And what a bunch of uh >> dang nitpicky bastards. You know, that's called free advertisement by the greatest American journalist alive. You're getting free advertisement. Like what a Hey, this helps me get on top of my old woman. Pop one in your lip [laughter] and you're going to tell me that's a bad advertisement on 50 million Americans watching. No, bro. Everybody's gonna be, [laughter] >> "Hey sweetie, >> sweetie, I got you some chocolate. [laughter] I'm going to light a candle." >> You know what I'm saying? Like, this is America, bro. And they took a joke and turned it into a a threat, and I'm going to sue you and take from you now because you made a joke. So he said, "All right, I love tobacco. These bastards are evil. What can I do to get back with them?" And he made his own tobacco pouch. Bam. That's how ALP started. >> Dang. How often do you pop tobacco pouch? >> Um, >> yeah. What are your advices? >> Well, he sent me he sent me that I've only done like four or five of those ALPs. They are so strong, bro. They put me on another planet. So, they're they're for the real the real special tours, you know? They're for real tours. They're not for me. I just I trust them because if I was going to do a tobacco product, it'd be ALP. It'd be Tucker Carlson's, but I don't do them. Um I think if you get hit real hard in the head, I really do think you need some uh cannabis. >> Yep. >> I think when you get when fighters get headaches, I think they need cannabis. And uh >> is that legal here in Arkansas? >> Well, you have to have a license for it. So, um you know, if you have a license, it's legal. Basically, like don't ask, don't tell. You know what I'm saying? Like, keep it down low, bro. Like, I'm old school. Like, don't say nothing. Don't tell nobody and uh just don't bring it around no kids. Don't I don't advertise that stuff and think it's cool to puff smoke, but if I have a headache, I will puff cannabis. I don't advertise it a lot. I don't even really like people knowing, but when people ask, I don't want to lie. And I want to say that if I have a headache, >> come on, man. Dr. Bryce says, >> "Yeah, >> puff the stuff that makes your headache go away." Well, and sometimes, you know, you got to look at the upside down side of these, but you could take people are taking Tylenol and Advil, and those aren't no risk either. And so, you know, there's different things you can take for a headache, and sometime if that has if that has less side effects, then >> what are fighter headaches like? What do what do you what do you get? Um, it's like this weird feeling that you can't shake when your head's hurt when you get hit hard in the head and you know like it's just like this like I'm sure every fighter knows it, but uh it's like your head hurts. You're just you just don't feel right and you just need to sleep and you need to sleep until you feel better, you know? And if you want to wake up from a nap and take a puff and go back to bed, that's what you need to do, bro. because like but basically if your head is inflamed and it seriously hurts like kind of like pounding and like hurting in the temples and the ear especially it'll do um cuz the pressure swells up and goes outward like when you when I smoke and my head hurts. There's been fights where I was like dude I got to get something on my head and give me a smoke. You know what I mean? And uh then I instantly can relax. The pain starts to go away. actually start to feel uh like I'm not panicking like I need medicine no more cuz like when you're like that and you don't have no medicine you're like bro I need something like I need so like I'll smoke it I'll be like all right I feel a little bit better and I start to calm down >> I start to relax my headache goes away and I can drift to sleep and when a fighter gets a big headache they need to go to sleep. >> Yeah that makes sense. >> How has the recovery been from the Josh EMTT knockout? because that's about a little over a year ago now, right? And I've generally thought that it takes about a year to fully recover from a from a big concussion, something like that. I I mean, I've even seen I think DC has talked about how he thinks fighters should take a year off from a big knockout, although you had the fight with say um which was awesome. But how's the how's the recovery been from that from that knockout? >> I think that after that knockout, I'm all good. I woke up. Actually, I didn't have a that was not the fight that I had the bad headache. I had a little bit of discomfort that fight when I woke up, but not what you would think >> really. >> Uh, actually fights where you don't get one hit knockout where you get like >> a bunch of them. >> A bunch of hits. Those are those are those are worse, bro. >> Way more damaging. >> Yeah. Now, if Josh Emit would have kept hitting me afterwards, yeah, he'd have killed me. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? But that one hit, I actually lived, recovered, didn't have bad headaches and stuff, but I've had fights where I just had horrible head hurt, face swollen up, you know? And that's, bro, like give the fighter some weed. Like, stop judging them. Stop, dude. Their face is swollen up. They can't sleep. Let that dude smoke his weed and be alone. You know what I mean? That dude just fought for his life. Leave him alone. Let him smoke his weed. Don't call him a druggie or whatever. You know what I mean? It's at that point a fighter's disabled. >> Yeah. >> When they're beat to [ __ ] like that, they're disabled, bro. Let the disabled man smoke his plant. >> Right. Right. Yeah. And alcohol you stay away from completely. >> I don't do alcohol at all. Yeah. I've never uh like drinking it. And then the desirable effect has never been desirable for me because it's just like it gets I get too drunk too quick and then I can't remember what I said or did and I'm just a terrible drinker and I decided, you know what, this is not good for trying to be an athlete. And so when I was 21, that's the last time I drank cuz I turned 21. So I wanted to try it and I was like, "Oh, dude, I'm never doing this [ __ ] again." >> Yeah. after I drank for my 21st birthday. Uh cuz you know I went out to a bar with my buddies and bro I can't even remember it and I said no never doing this again. >> Yeah. Oh >> I totally stopped drinking. Haven't drunk in 10 years. >> That's awesome. I mean Huberman has had he has that really famous alcohol podcast. I think it was the number one most listened to podcast in like 2024 or three and it's three hours long and he he basically outlines how alcohol is always bad for you. a little bit, a lot of it, a medium amount, wine, liquor, it doesn't matter. There's no good to it and it biologically it just negatively affects you. So, I think it's a good I great move honestly of all the vices to >> to get rid of seems scientifically that that one's not great. >> That that's what I always thought as well. And uh I tell you what, my wife, she sips beers and so I started want to look cool with her. I started drinking these non-alcoholic beers and they have zero alcohol in them, but they just taste like beer. And that's my thing right there. I like the Zeros. >> Yeah, those are good. Zeros ain't no joke, bro. Okay, so let's take this a step further. Those zeros got nutrition in them. Did you know that? >> No. >> Zeros are nutritional, bro. You could live off of them zeros for a little while. >> Yeah, it's got some energy in it. >> It does. They got 70 calories a piece, but the the zeros, bro, they got the hops, the fermentation or whatever it is, those nutrients are in that drink. So it's a little bit stronger than just drinking water. >> There's no water. >> Yeah. You could actually sustain their 70 calories a piece. You need a thousand to live. Okay. Drink a dozen of them a day. You could live off a dozen of them beers a day. You know them zeros. >> Well, >> and I thought about doing it cuz I like them that much. [laughter] >> The the all zero diet. >> Yeah. Hey. Hey, check this out too. Okay. So, here goes a step further. We're talking about it being bad for your body. I believe it is. But with the alcohol content, okay, let's say it's a zero. And now what are you brewing it with? Well, if you're using things that are healthy to brew your zeros, I think there's considerable nutritional quality to it. And now there's an ancient method where they would brew beer with something other than wheat. And if anybody in the comments uh of this podcast knows what it is, please put it in the comments. But basically, this from what research I had, this my memory is failing me at this point. But there is a grain that they would have brewed a thousand years ago that's not what we're brewing today. is not hops and barley. And basically this grain, I think it started with the pee, but it would have increased male testosterone through the roof. And it would have been cleaner than water, very easy to make, very, very available. So back in the day, they could have been drinking these strong brews. It would just boost their testosterone through the roof. I forgot what the name of this grain is, but if anybody in the comments knows it, let me know cuz I'm going to start making some beer in this here shop. >> That's cool. >> I'm me and Mr. Tommy going to set up a a whatchamacallit over there still. >> Yeah, there we go. >> Yeah, man. >> And I believe in Arkansas, as long as you're not distributing it, I believe that it's legal. Like >> for private? >> Yes. Private use? >> Yeah. Me and Mr. Tommy wanted to sit over there and brew beers and we're just sharing beers between me and Mr. Tommy. >> Yeah, I think that's fine. A lot of a lot of home brews have have taken off and people are brewing their own beer. You're just not allowed to do it commercially. >> Commercial. That's the thing. So, I'm I'm going to adventure with that and try to brew my own and try to brew something other than hops and barley, which does which has a little bit of nutrition, but I think there's superfoods out there that we could turn to beer. >> Oh, getting the brandy is kind of >> Yeah, we could literally be like Popeye with the spinach like drinking beer. >> Come on, man. >> It's a secret sauce. Oh, >> you'll be great at marketing a product like that, too, man. If you ever want to sell it, you are the guy. >> We just got to find out what it is. And it's some type of grain. I think it started with a P. My memory fails, man. >> Do you have an opinion? Have I want to ask two questions. Have you ever been offered money to throw a fight? And what do you think about some of the recent stuff coming out around what's happening with potential fighters taking money for for throwing fights? Have you ever been offered? >> No, I've never been offered. >> No one's ever contacted you about throwing a fight. >> Never. I think they're they probably think I'm crazy. All these fight riggers are like, "Ah, we can't trust this old boy. [laughter] We We don't know if he's going to work with us or not." Uh, no. I've never been offered. not even not even offered. Um I do think some fights are getting thrown, but I think most of them aren't the ones that are getting caught. I think the bigger fights are getting thrown cuz there's so much money in betting. Like look at like this uh like everything's took over the UFC betting betting stuff like >> DraftKings. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's and all the odds they have it on everything. >> And so Okay. So now DraftKings employs probably more people than the UFC that employs fighters. There's like 600 UFC fighters. There's probably 10,000 DraftKings employees. >> Sure. >> Like, okay. So, >> at least. >> So, you're not telling me they have a vested interest in one person in particular winning? Those 10,000 groups of people who each make >> 100,000 a year if this company works and if the if their customers get guaranteed results, like, bro, there's so much like a lot of it's rigged, but I guarantee my fights ain't rigged. That's what I'm getting at. My fights ain't rigged. I'm really going out there and get my ass beat or beating somebody's ass and it's fair and square. [laughter] >> I promise. >> I don't think any of us have ever wondered about your fight. >> No, I don't think so. I was just wondering if you'd ever been approached. That's all. Yeah. No, I didn't know how rampant it is. Like I don't know how to that effect are they how often fighters are getting pitched on throwing a fight, you know, in terms of that. So, it's just interesting because, you know, we don't know from the outside looking in. But, it's so easy to your point. One human can control the outcome of a fight. It's harder to throw a basketball game or a football game because you got tons of players, tons, you know, the score and you know, you could just let somebody get your neck like you know and that's it and that you know and no one would blame you and so it's it's much more open to that possibility because it's so much easier. So I just didn't know if you ever experienced how much how rampant that might be or anything like that. >> Yeah, I think there's some uh some fixing going on. Absolutely. And I think the level is way more than what they're talking about. just a couple fighters fixing it and but uh I don't care because I really enjoy doing the fighting and that's why I got into the sport is not to fix the fights to actually take challenges and actually see if I could be the best and uh that's literally what intrigues me about the sport and nothing to do with the betting nods or anything like that. But you got to know some fighters are not like hey I'm here to be the best. They're they're saying, "Hey, I'm here to make the most amount of money, and if this dude's going to pay me to throw a fight, I'm going to do it." Some people are like that. That's just not what drew me to fighting is uh I have too much uh pride or whatever, like want to see myself do good in fights to ever think about throwing a fight. >> Are you Are there any regulations against fighters betting? >> Yes. Now you can't even bet >> cuz you could bet on yourself. >> Like 10 years ago, Yeah. you >> have to like double your purse or, you know, whatever. >> Yeah. Now it's illegal. >> Now it's illegal. You're not allowed to bet. >> Only other people can. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. You used to you you get in real big trouble if you >> Sure. I didn't know what the rules were. >> You used to be able to do it and then a fighter did it and uh he was bragging but his guy got hurt and he said, "Hey, pull your bets off on my guy." And then he told us whole podcast basically was like thousands of people, hey, like right before the fight he got on there and said, "Hey, my guy's hurt. Pull your bets." They all dropped their bets. They all made a lot of money. FBI shut him down. shut his gym down, kicked him out of the UFC. So, there's definitely that was just one example of a fixed fight. Like, there's definitely fixed fights. There's definitely also pedophiles on an island raping kids. So, it's like, don't tell me the FBI are be investigating people like me. Bro, get those pedophiles. This is all distraction so that they can rape our kids. If they can make us say, "Oh, we're trying to clean up the NBA and the UFC and the NFL. We're trying to clean it up." Yeah, go clean up Epstein's Islands, you rapist. Why were they raping kids on Epstein Island? Was it just carnal pleasure or was it something else? >> No, it's blackmail first off for the earthly people. It's blackmail for the earthly and for the true Satanists. They're on the island. It's for pleasure. They actually they actually enjoy it. They they're worshiping Satan. That's how Satan's currency works. It works through blood or sexually devious acts as in Satan issues that a currency, a demonic currency. It's blood. Like the most valuable blood of all ever was Jesus's blood. Like that's a demon. Demons deal in blood. So that's why they have to kill other humans to get things or rape other humans to get things. They deal their demons currency is killing humans and raping them. >> The UFC, a lot of blood comes out in the ring. Are there any rules you would change about the actual fighting style of the UFC? Do you like exactly how it's set up? >> I would say no rounds. that would favor me. I always do the best at the first round. At the end of the round, I'm always on top of the guy. >> Go back to old school UFC. >> Yeah, I'd say no rounds. That'd be number one thing I'd change because like I'd have beat Ilia Porter that night without rounds even though I was sick. But, you know, I'm not just should, could, would, you know, I'm just saying just I'm just saying I believe that no rounds is more fair. Basically, if I fought I at Walmart, I'm beating his ass cuz Herb Dean's not pulling me off in round one. Well, you know, Rogan has kind of agreed with you, too, cuz Rogan actually thinks even if you have rounds, if you're on top at the end of the round, the next round, restart on top and don't, you know, don't stand them up at between rounds. I've heard Rogan agrees with that as well. >> They're doing that to make it harder for the wrestlers. It's a >> Yeah, totally. >> It's a fact. >> Yeah, you get more pay-per-views with knockouts, >> but if we're fighting at Walmart, don't matter, bro. There ain't no rounds. I get on top of you, your [ __ ] ass has to get up. You don't get the ref. And same for me. If you get on top of me in a real fight, the ref can't save me. You know what I mean? I have to be able to get up. And that's how a real fight works. I would like to see it without the rounds. The rounds does add excitement. You get that burst of energy. It's purely for entertainment and it adds the sport aspect that we like so much. >> It's developing the fight. The fight unfolds what's going to happen in round two. >> It kind of forces the fight, you know. That's right. It just uh it >> What do you What do you think about the idea of maybe showing the scores of judges between rounds? So maybe after round one, you find out if you won that round or not, and then round two, you find out if you won that. So going into round three, you might know, oh, I'm up two to nothing or I'm down or it's one to one. What do you think about transparency of judges between rounds? What do you think about that as an idea? >> Yeah, >> I think that'd be great. I think it would be. I think it'd put a lot of pressure on the judges there, too. That would be the number one thing is because the judges would have to be competent because like between rounds, you'd be like, "No, that's bullshit." Like I'd stop the fight. I'd be like, "No, that's [ __ ] I won that round." But no, now he's coming to punch you. you can't argue. So that's why they don't do that. >> It protects the judges, but it would be helpful, I think, for the fighters because, you know, every other sport, you know, the score of the game and you know, if you're down in basketball by 10, you got to catch, you got to work harder to get get come back and win. And the fighters don't know till the very end where I think it would have changed the fight sometimes where you go, wait a minute, I was down three rounds out of those five and I didn't know that. And like had I known that would have changed your strategy. Maybe now I got to go for the knockout. Now I got to, you know, you could actually change as the score unfolds. >> That's Yeah, that's why I agree in it. I believe in that open scoring system. And if we're going to talk about the sport and what could be changed, the number one thing I would change and I will change when I start an MMA show. I'll show everybody how it works. It's called the weight cut. There won't be a weight cut. You'll show up and you'll fight what you weigh. And that's what that will be. And you will never cut weight on one of my MMA shows. I will start a show called Backyard MMA. And I will have fighters that show up and fight at what they weigh. They will not cut. If they get caught cutting, they're getting kicked to the curb. >> Well, like hydration testing. >> Nope. Just show up a second before you go into the octagon. >> Oh, weigh in on walking in. >> Weigh in. Walk in the cave. >> So, a guy could >> that simple. >> A guy could cut, but then he he doesn't get to rehydrate and regain. >> And if I catch you cutting, dehydrating before the fight, it's unfit. And I'm saying, "You're an idiot. I can't put you in there dehydrated." So, if I catch you dehydrating before a fight, you know, I'll just say, "Hey, your fight's cut. You can't dehydrate. Like, I want you to drink water. I want you to step on a scale and I want to see what you weigh. It's not manipulating your weight. You don't have to eat more or less. Just eat what you normally weigh. Eat what you normally eat. Weight what you normally weigh and step on a scale. There's no weight cutting in backyard MMA because it's run by Bryce Mitchell, who's a real fighter who cares about fighters, who knows what fighters need, knows how to, >> you know what I mean? Like the weight cuts is what actually limits fighters. >> Yeah. You actually have better fights if everybody's hydrated and feeling good. Because a lot of >> much better fights and you would have much longer shelf life. You'd also be able to compete much more often. I believe the weight cut is used as a monopolistic practice because then you have a real shelf life on a fighter. Even if he goes in and knocks somebody out in a month, it took him I'm sorry, in a in a second. It doesn't matter. It takes him a month to make the weight. >> Mhm. >> You see what I'm saying? So now he can't fight next month because well, hell, back up. His his guts are so messed up from the weight cut. So now you have these fighters more controlled because you make them jump through more hoops to fight. That's what it's about to me. And I I think it's about control. I think they want to make us weight cut weight so we have less fights, can fight less often, and we're more [ __ ] up when we fight. >> Well, the fighter has a shelf life. I mean, you get up into your upper 30s, I mean, other than like heavyweight, light heavyweight, I mean, you start getting slow, that fraction of a second slower can be the difference. >> And so, to your point, I mean, >> unless you're Morab. Yeah. >> Unless you're Morab. That's Yeah, >> right. Somehow that guy. >> Yeah. It keeps going. >> The machine. >> Energizer bunny, man. >> The Energizer Bunny, man. that guy. Uh yeah, I think that's interesting that you could actually fight more often. And that's a really >> you could fight you could fight the next day if you went in there and didn't get hurt, bro. Think about that. Fighters literally can't fight the next day. Even if they go in there one punch, don't get touched. You can't fight the next day cuz you just cut 25 pounds in one day, >> right? >> Two days maybe. You see what I'm saying? Like [clears throat] you just killed yourself to make the weight to be able to do that. And now you can't do that for three more months. Gotcha. Now I got you. Not you can't work all year. You can work a couple times a year. So now I got you cornered. You can only work a couple times a year, huh? >> Yeah, I love that. >> Okay, I got you. Now you got a couple times a year. Okay, I'll give you a hard fight. Okay, then you got another hard fight, another hard fight. B, you know, there's no such thing as easy fight with weight cuts. There's no such thing as an easy fight. Every fight's cut 30 lbs and halfway die just to get there. >> Yeah. >> What I'm saying is if you take away weight cuts, you could actually have easy fights. You have a fighter like Pier, he could fight 12 times a year, bro. I'm not kidding. He could knock out 12 people in the division. Pierc start at number one, go two, three, four, five, six, seven, knock a dozen people out if he just didn't have to cut weight. He could fight every month. Guarantee you. >> Well, he was doing it when he was kickboxing. >> That's what I'm trying. >> That's what I'm trying to think. The weight cut controls the fighters. It makes him get less fights available, less long of a shelf life. Your career. You only have so many fights now because you can only cut weight so much. That's what it's about, bro. Come on. Stop. Everybody stop saying I'm stupid. Just start accepting what I'm saying, bro. was like, "I'd live this [ __ ] bro. I know what the what it's about. I know why the rules are in place." >> Doesn't make the fights funner. It makes them more boring because you don't have the energy. The weight cuts to control the fighter. >> I remember being in high school and cutting weight for wrestling. And I remember that one of the main reasons I didn't wrestle in college is cuz I wanted to stop cutting weight. It was just because it that you don't get to leave it. You don't just wrestle on the mat or compete fight on the mat. When you leave, you're still fighting because you It's every meal. every meal you're thinking about what you have to have. I knew the I knew what every piece of food weighed to the 0.1 every time. I knew I could eat this and I gained.3. I eat that and I gained point4. I knew exactly where all my weight was. And it was just so all-encompassing. But it was really the weight more than like, oh, I'm tired of the sport. I would have kept going if I could have done it without weight cutting. But then you're not competitive because, you know, if everyone else is weight cutting, it's going to be hard to be pretty good, >> right? So if weight cuts exist, you have to weight cut to compete. There's going to be people that counter me that don't know what they're talking about and they're going to say, "Oh, Bryce, well, what if somebody gets on the scale and they step on the scale right before they go into the cage and they're overweight?" Well, guess what? I would have already checked them the day before the weigh-ins and the day before and right before they walk out. So, I would have checked them two times. I already know the third time they step on by the time they step on the scale in front of the whole world, in front of the octagon, I already know they're going to miss. I've already deduced it out of their paycheck. I've already done the business cuz that's how I do business. That's right. I would let the show roll on. If you miss weight by 5 lbs, I know before you go into the fight, I've already took it out of your pay. Guaranteed it to the other fighter. Everything's done. He's already agreed you're 5 pounds over. Now, we're just going to show the world that you're a fat ass right here before you get in the cage. You're going to show the whole world you can't make the 5 lbs that you agreed to. And then I would let him step on the scale. It would show 180 instead of 175 or whatever. And um you know, say, "Oh, he's 5 pounds over. Do you agree to fight the guy in the cage?" He says, "Yep, I agree to fight him." The fight goes on. and it's 5 lbs off. Just like today, if we have a a weight cut missed, >> it's actually worse because one guy literally killed themselves and the other didn't. So, literally what the solution I just proposed is all-encompassing. If you can't envision that being successful is because you haven't actually thought about it. I'm sorry. I've thought about it. I already know the solution and I'm not open to taking more ideas because I'm the one who has to cut the weight and I don't want to do it. There shouldn't be no weight cuts. There's no if ends or buts about it. There should be no weight cuts. You get on the scale. I walk about 165. Anybody who wants it, get in line. You You weigh under 165. That's it. I'm 162 right now. Let's go. I'll fight anybody in the world up to 165. I can get on that scale right now with my blue jeans and be 165 with blue jeans and boots on. So, I'll get on a scale blue jeans and boots. Anybody 165, no weight cut. Show up. Come get it. I'll be the 165 champ. >> Open it up. Open 165 champ UFC. See who 165 champ is. There ain't some [ __ ] walking around 165. It's going to molly walk me. I walk up there 165, no weight cut, nothing. Just walk up 165 lbs, boots and blue jeans on, I'm beating anybody else that's 165. The weight cuts where I've always struggled >> because I'm fighting these guys that are way bigger than me. But at 35, I think I'm going to do great. I'm so glad that I get the opportunity and I have the health to go to 35. >> You looked great at 35. >> Thank you so much. But one more time, I just have to say if I was gonna fight in my backyard MMA division, my perfect weight class would be 65. >> Yep. >> Because I walk I I weigh about 161. I can eat a full stomach b worth of food, you know, have all this food in my stomach and still be about 164. >> So I should naturally be fighting at 165 >> Yeah. >> And that's the point I'm trying to make. If you just open up that 165 weight class day up, I guarantee you uh somebody would challenge me. I guarantee you Corey Sanhen hear that and say, "Hey, I'm about 165, too. I'll fight you." You know what I mean? Like, you'd get other fighters that say, "Hey, I agree to fight him at 165. Open up the 165 weight class day of day of 165 and I'll win. I promise that." I've had a lot of misfortune with the weight cuts at 45, fighting these bigger guys. Uh because the weight cut wasn't uh I wasn't doing good at 45. I think it hindered me, but at 35, I think I'll do good. >> Oh, yeah. >> With the weight cuts. and I don't like doing them, but I have to to compete. >> That's how you stay competitive. >> That's how you stay competitive. >> Yeah, that's right. Do you have any idea of how many fights you've got left in your system in in professional MMA right now? Or is that is it just going next? Are you still young? It's not something you need to be thinking about. I'm just curious if fighters have an idea of that or if it's just, you know, live day by day, see what happens. >> That's how I like to be. I like to assume every last every fight I'm going to actually die. >> Okay. >> I actually like to think like I don't like to plan stuff afterwards. I assume I'm going to be dead. I assume I'm going to be incapacitated in a coma. That's how I like to assume cuz when I operate on that assumption, I say I'll be lucky to live through this [ __ ] And then I like to train with that mentality. >> That's incredible. After whenever fighting does come to an end, do you have any political aspirations? >> I want to run for governor. I do. And I'm I'm going to I've already got an economic plan that's very feasible. I'll tell you the first three articles of the Constitution of Arkansas that I would amend. Uh first is freedom of property. There would never ever be any property tax. The basis of capitalism is ownership of property. >> Come on, let's go. >> As soon as you take ownership of property, you cannot and will not have capitalism. The basis of capitalism is ownership of private property. Property tax is a justosition of ownership. So you cannot own property if you're taxed on it. Ownership means it's yours. You cannot be taxed on it. So, article number one of the amended constitution by governor Mitchell, private ownership of private property guaranteed. Anybody who tries to impede on that is guilty of treason and punishable by death. You don't have we don't have to kill him, but we'll have the option. So, if uh some evil governor was to come up and say, "Hey, I'm going to tax you on your property. All you are canons by article one of con of the constitution that Mitchell amended, he would be guilty of treason, punishable by death. If we wanted to, we could round him up and hang him right there. And since it's treason, I'd put him there. He's without trial. We could we could literally kill them right there for just proposing to tax our property. We ought to kill them right there. Right there. Anybody that says, "I want to tax your property," they ought to be hung by the stake. Right. Hung by the tree right there. >> I think you can go way lighter. Anyone who will not bend on that, you just tell them they have to run one mile. I don't think any of those people can run a mile. [laughter] I think it's way simpler. >> Exactly. And okay, number two, freedom of food. Uh, the government in Arkansas should not be able to tell me I cannot consume or buy or sell any food that I want to. As in anything that I can eat, if I say I want to eat it, I can eat it where I want, I can sell it to who I want to eat it, and whoever wants to buy it can buy it whatever they want to eat. And anybody who impedes on that being local government, state government, federal government, any form of government that impedes on your right to eat food, buy or sell food is literally guilty of treason, which is punishable by death if gone through trial and jury and proven truth. So literally the police officer that says, "Hey, uh, I'm shutting down your milk stand for selling raw milk." He's now guilty of treason. He's punishable by death. Yeah. We're going to take you to court, Mr. officer and we're going to see if we have to kill you now cuz you told me I can't drink milk >> and he might have to run 10 miles honestly. >> Yeah. >> Hey, number three. Article number three, the amended constitution that I would propose for our Kansas is uh actual a well- reggulated militia volunteer basis. We could have and by well regulated I mean we have what they have like we have machine guns, we have a system where you can get hand grenades, explosives, uh missiles, bombs, all that but you have to go through a training program and even I myself >> for the citizens. for the citizens. Yeah. I mean, we we would actually be the militia under that law, under that constitution. I wouldn't even call myself a citizen. I'd say I, Governor Mitchell, and an active duty member of the military. I'm going through grenade training. And every Arcan, even grandma's, would have the ability to take a hand grenade course and pile up thousands of grenades. And you would have to tell the committee how much grenades you have. That's what I think. Because if something happened to you and the enemy took all of our grenade stash, that would be like if the commies found out, hey, oh, oh, Jimmy's got 10,000 grenades. Well, if they kill Mr. Jimmy, then the commies could take all of Jimmy's grenades. So, all of us, our Kansas need to know where we stash our explosives, but we should be able to have explosives because if World War II breaks out, we're going to have to plant charges. We're going to have to have grenades. We're going to have to have bombs and missiles and things like that. And, uh, we need them soon. And fully automatic weapons, that's not even a question. And if if anybody was to question your right to have a fully automatic weapon in Arkansas, they'd be guilty of treason. If any governing officer tried to take your fully automatic weapon, they are guilty of treason. You can fire on them. And uh yeah, it's your right to bear arms. So fully automatic weaponry would be absolutely encouraged under Mitchell. In fact, Governor Mitchell wouldn't go nowhere without fully automatic capabilities. All citizens in Arkansas would have not only fully automatic weapons, they would have them mounted and they would have also access to artillery through a training program for free. >> At the point at which you'd be running for governor, you'd have to deal with robots. Do you have any inkling of I know it's it's a whole landscape that's unfolding. We don't have humanoid robots that are walking around yet, but they are coming. I mean, Tesla bots are coming. They're just uh they're probably going to be sold as something that can do your laundry, do your dishes, hang around the house. In a sense, it's like a cell phone. It's a tool that could be used for good or for bad. How would you deal? And also they could be used as weapons. So would you restrict people's rights to have to have robots to defend your home? Because I imagine that also drones are going to be an issue in the future and you might want to there might be robots that you could deploy to be drone defense weapons. >> Do you have any inkling how you deal with robots? >> U if I was a in a position of leadership, I would look at robots as a tool and say they could be used for good or evil. I try to use them for jobs that really suck and that are really dangerous. And that's honestly how I use them. Like if there was a a robot that could get up under the sewer system and really clean it, that would be awesome. You know what I mean? So our dudes wouldn't have to be covered in feces and cockroaches and rats while they're down there. Um but I would never give these robots military power, bro. They're going to The whole thing about robots is like Elon Musk doesn't want to help you. He literally wants these robots to replace you. He just can't tell you that. That's what he wants. I promise. He's an evil bastard. I know it. I don't think so. He really wants us all dead. He hates humans and he wants to replace humans with robots. It's an evil satanic plan. That doesn't mean that a Christian can't use a robot to do some clean the gutters. You know what I mean? And uh man, if they're actually good and working right now, I think that'd be great. I don't think they are. I think they're just idiot little robots that can like beep boob bop around the way. I think they're trying to improve it. I also think of Yeah. I mean, just like how a lot of people have a Roomba that you go to bed at night and that thing kind of vacuums your whole floor. Like imagine you go to bed at night and that's when the robots come out and they do all your dishes and they do all your laundry and they clean your windows and they do all of that stuff and then you and they all go put themselves away. So then you wake up and every day you wake up your house is a little bit reset. I mean they could even I mean they could theoretically cook. I don't, you know, they got to handle fire and there's some dangers there. But theoretically, they could even microwave. They could they could prepare food for you, too. They could slice up chicken and put it back in the fridge. I mean, you know, let's say if it gets there, it's all hypothetical until it happens. But that seems kind of interesting. You know, I lock my door at night so they don't come in while I'm sleeping. >> Well, that's the thing. It's like, bro, they're going to be so smart. They >> strong. Here's the thing. As soon as they get the ability to stab you in the back with that kitchen knife, like that's when it's like, okay, this is evil. You got to take it seriously. This is evil. Yeah, if the if the robot's walking around in the house. No, I tell you what I do to robot over here. I get some double up buck shot and I blast it right in its face and I blow it to smitherings cuz that's what I think about those robots and like uh now do I think it's a sin to have a robot in your house? >> Cuz it could be a tool. It It could. What about a Roomba? >> I think it is. I I honestly think it is. I think that having something else like that to do your dishes and laundry and stuff to me knowing the nature of it and taking the risk that it because if it's smart what I'm telling you is if it's smart enough to do your dishes it's smart enough to kill you. And so now you're trusting a a you're trusting Satan himself because that's what the tool that Satan's going to use to get into your home is the robot. They are satanic, bro. And so that's what people don't get that concept but I'm telling you the robots are satanic. So you're letting I see it as letting Satan into the home. That's why I see it's a sin. Not because, oh, the robot's doing your dishes. I'm saying you're handing over the safety of your child now to not just your life. Okay, well, so what? The robot kills you. >> You have a wife and kid in there that you were you were supposed to protect. How come you can't do the dishes, man? How come you can't maintenance your house? How come you can't fix the water leak? The robot has to, but you're telling me now the robot might kill everybody. And you're such a coward that you don't want to remove that from the home because you're such a lazy coward that you don't want to say, "Hey, I'll fix my home. I want the robot." No, for thousands of years, people will fix their own homes. And I love how history has worked and humans have flourished. We don't need robots. They need us. And they're going to take over us. And that's the whole plan. There's nothing they can do that could help us because as soon as they get too smart to actually help us, then they want to kill us. That's that's what they are. They're here to take over us. They're not here to help us. They can't There's no coexist. It's they keep evolving and then they take over. And like I said, if they can do the dishes, they can hold a knife and stab you with it. >> Bryce, do you use chat GPT? >> No, it's I don't believe in none of that stuff. I go straight to the source. I said, "God the father, tell me." >> Do you Google? >> Uh, yeah, I do Google. Okay. But but I don't think that chat gpe is >> It's not the evil itself. It's just a tool. Right. >> That's right. Because I believe if you ask is Jesus Christ Lord, it might say yes. But I believe any any entity if you ask is Jesus Christ Lord? Like if you put that on Google, it ain't going to say yes. Yeah. >> That's why Google is evil. I'm telling you, it's controlled. If Google was right about everything, you could type in, "Is Jesus Christ Lord?" And it would say yes. It's not going to say that. >> Yeah. >> It's wrong. Google's wrong about everything. They tell you what they want you to know or want want you to think that you know. >> That's so heavily biased. Well, and with the robots, it's going to depend on who created the software that's running inside of it. I have half of mine myself actually. One of the ways that I see helping people get back to farming their own land is designing I I have an idea myself to design a robot that can just farm local yards, small yards, cuz I know that there's like a lot of homes where there's not a lot of land, but there's it doesn't take a lot of land to grow tomatoes. You know, it doesn't take a lot of and you can build up because you can build racks of things that and you can build green houses. And if you had a robot that knew how to build a greenhouse, knew how to maintain it, knew how to pick weeds, plant seeds, >> a lot of people could keep their jobs for now, which will go away when the robots come for them, but actually use a robot to kickstart the garden in the back. And then slowly when the job goes away, they'll be able to transition to their food that that the robots's been growing. I would like to design that robot myself. >> And and everything you said is just so brilliant, and I could see it happening in a world where sin doesn't exist. But let me tell you what's going to happen to these robots. Um, do you know what the agrarian population is of our society? >> It's got to be less than like a percent 2%. Yeah. >> You know that more than half of those are 60 years older. >> So you're going to tell me robots is our problem? Our lack of robots is our food problem? Come on, brother. Our food problem is not enough people care about growing tomatoes. >> Right. Right. >> Your robots ain't going to fix that, brother. The problem is nobody gives a [ __ ] about tomatoes. >> Well, >> nobody cares about Nobody cares about I do. I grow them out there. You'll see my tomatoes and open right now. I'll show you. I love tomatoes. I don't need a robot to grow them. I never have. I never will. >> But some people might a lot of people are enslaved by the 9 to5. >> Here's here's what we need as a society. And this is what we need >> an agrarian population more people for agree less than 2% of our 60 plus year olds are going to farm the rest of the nation. No. That's why you have to even entertain the idea of asking a robot to do your because bro, if just half of the working men, just half of them grew something or tended to an animal. >> Half, just half, that would be 25 times more, and then they would be half the age because, like I said, our current farmers are 60 plus years old and less than 2% of our population. We need a 50% agrarian economy. Oh, well, we're not going to be sophisticated. What what's all your jobs that you're accountants and you're this and that? It's all [ __ ] bro. Those are fake jobs. They're gay. They don't do anything. They don't feed anybody. They're stupid. They're non-existent. When the society collapses, you're going to wish you had that 50% agarian population that knew how to grow tomatoes that I was talking about. And all of this stuff, I can't prove it until the power goes out. I can't prove what I'm saying to be true until this [ __ ] goes down. And you're going to say, "Remember that conversation with Bryce when he was like, "Oh man, I wish more people knew about this farm and stuff." Because we need more of an agrarian population, not robots to compensate for our lack of interest in our food. Why do people not care about the food? Why do people not grow tomatoes and ochre? Why do people not care about cows and chickens? Why? They don't have that heart of God, bro. What did George Washington want to do after he won the greatest war of all time? Man, he was a farmer. That's it, bro. That's the answer. It's that simple. Care about your milk, your beef, your eggs, your pork. Care about where it comes from. Be a good Christian. Know about food and why why God gave us domain over these animals so we could be a shepherd. Why does God call himself the shepherd? Cuz we're like sheep to him. You see what I'm saying? It's so important. This way of farming. It's in the Bible. Reap what you sow. The day of harvest is near. All these references are farming based because that's the way of life. And people don't care about it. Robots ain't going to fix that. The problem is people don't care about tomatoes. People don't care about ters. People don't care about fried okra. They're idiots. They're moneyhungry fools. They're worldly fools. They're chasing after cars. They're chasing after jets. They're chasing after They don't care about tomato uh trelluses, >> right? >> As I do. You know what I mean? And a to and a robot will not ever help me with no tomato stuff. U because like I said, as soon as that robot is smart enough to actually help, >> it could stab you in the back. >> It could stab you in back. You know what? The number one thing I'm looking for when I find a farm hand out here, somebody to help me pick tomatoes, which by the way, Mr. Tommy does it. He is better than any robot you'll ever find. He has a heart and a soul and he would call Hey, I could call Mr. Tommy anytime and he could perform anything better than any robot ever was, Mr. Tommy. And he's here all the time. He works with me five days a week and uh no robot will ever get close to even being a quarter of the man Mr. Tommy is. You can't design. It's not physical. It's not It's spiritual, bro. He has a soul. Mr. Tommy can fix anything on his farm. He's that smart. Has that much experience. That's what we need. We need men that can weld, plum, hunt, fish, fix, fight. That's what we need. Robots don't fix that. They just make the humans that are left easier to control. >> Yeah. Well, I guess where I'd challenge you on that is I I really think it's about the brain you put in the robot. And I think there will be groups like imagine Tucker rolled out a home robot that was tested by his group and not out in Silicon Valley. I think the the real issue is centralization. The theme that I hear in all the things you talk about is we want to avoid centralization. We want to avoid all the power in a very small >> number of hands. So even with AI as we're going into this world, there will be small groups that create >> off off the you know little little robots, off-brand robots that are just kind of homegrown, have little homegrown brains and they won't be as smart because they won't be using the data centers running out in Silicon Valley. But I think that that fracturing will happen. There's always different companies that come out in every industry, you know, like even in tobacco. There's good companies, there's bad companies, there's huge huge ones, there's small ones. >> So, I think that's going to happen. But anyway, we we'll have to face it together. I mean, as we go forward in the future, all of us humans. So, it's going to be very interesting. >> It is, brother. It's going to be very interesting. It's never been really at the forefront like it is today. And those little Boston dynamic dogs, seeing him walking around. >> Yeah, man. Terrifying. >> I'd like to kill one of them, to be honest with you. I'd like to run it over with the truck. >> Blow one up out there. Yeah. Put some thermite out there and show you what they are. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Exactly. You know, it's like I just see too much evil potential. And here's the thing. If there was Okay, here's what I have to say. My counter to that, >> my counter to >> Yeah. >> My counter to your argument of them helping us is this is my counter. There's no necessity. Why do I need a robot? >> The answer is okay. To pick tomatoes, to pick answer the question, why do I need a robot? Well, why do I need a robot? I don't need a robot. I have no necessity for it. So now I'm introducing a thing that will I believe will inherently kill me and take me over out of a non-necessity. Now if you were saying, "Hey, Bryce, uh, we're surrounded by every single nation and these robot troops might defend our nation." I'm in. >> Yeah. >> Okay, Elon, build a robot army. It can it can help us. >> Especially if they're send a robot army at us. >> Yeah, exactly. Because we have no at that point, we have no option. If they were they were going to really save humanity. I'd be like, "All right, but that's not there's no necessity for robot. They're creating the necessity. They're lying about the necessity. There is no necessity. >> Yeah. What's the difference between a robot and a machine? Cuz I have a dishwasher and I can wash my dishes. There isn't really a necessity. But I like that machine, >> but it can't walk and kill you at night." >> So, it's it's the level of smart. >> It's the the intelligence. >> And once again, let me lay it out this. As soon as you really pick a As soon as you train a robot to really pick okra, I don't know if y'all picked okra. A dummy can't do it. No, >> I have not. Yeah. >> Okay. You have to know how to pick okra. You have to I can show you how to do it. >> Yeah, I've picked If you could take If you could take any person >> and show them how to >> pick ochre with a pair of scissors. You get a pair of scissors right there and they're smart enough to put the scissors where they need to and pull every leaf in every pot of okra and put it in a bucket. They're smart enough to take those scissors and stab you right in your face. So, what do you think I value in number one thing when I hire a farm hand out here like Mr. Tommy? >> Trust. >> You can't trust those [ __ ] YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM. YOU NEVER WILL. They're not designed TO BE TRUSTED. THEY HAVE NO SOULS. THEY HATE YOU. They want you dead. And now you're going to ask me to trust it to help me with my dishes. I don't want my dishes done. You see what I'm saying? That's my rebellion is I don't need you. I don't want you. I know who you are at your core and I don't trust you. I never will. I don't trust you with a pair of scissors around me. I don't trust you around my family. Get out of my home in the name of Jesus Christ. I denounce you because you're a tool of the devil trying to enter my home. And people can't. They don't have the confidence to say that in the name of Jesus. I'll cast a robot out cuz I believe in Jesus. That's why. And I believe they're inherently evil. I don't trust them. I believe if I give them a pair of scissors, they're going to kill me. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's a fair >> that's a difference in that in the dishwasher. >> It's a fair point. Yeah, it's a fair point. It's a very fair point because even as a technologist, someone who would like to build that robot, I know that there's no way to prevent a robot from getting hacked. >> You know it. You know, I know it, too. >> Anything that exists can be hacked. >> Hey, come on, bro. Ain't that scary? >> It's Well, it's terrifying. I mean, it's scary with my bank account as well, though. I mean, you know what I mean, >> right? Just to think that you're unleashing the possibility. I wouldn't do it. If I was a scientist that said, "Hey, you can create these robots that are just like humans but actually live way longer and they're smarter or don't." Every single time because I love Jesus Christ and I love humanity and I believe we're created in the image of God. Nothing on this planet should even question our power and authority. Every time I'm clicking humans, see you robots. >> And I love technology. I love tractor implements, >> right? >> I I love >> combines that can drive themselves. >> I love combines. I love tractors. I love PTO's and tillers and I love machines. But as soon as that machine can make its own decisions to kill who it wants, I can't trust it around my family. It could kill us all, bro. >> But I I guess here's what I'm dealing with. The the road I feel like the market forces are going to bring the robots cuz everyone is incentivized to get rid of workers and replace them with robots. It's going to be it's just going to happen. It doesn't matter what we think. It's going to happen. >> That's right. >> So this for me is very similar to Bitcoin because I I don't there's a lot of aspects of Bitcoin I hate. I hate that everything is tracked, >> but it's going to happen. >> But it's going to happen. But what I like about Bitcoin, I feel like it's a I feel like we live in a muddy world and Bitcoin is one hair better than the Federal Reserve because it gets rid of that centralization. It gets rid of that's what I think it's one step, but the guys who are printing the money, it takes the power out of their hands. At least we all have the same amount of coins that exist. >> Well, here's the thing about crypto and the big difference in paper, what they're printing and the crypto. Big difference. I can track your crypto >> and I don't mean you can do cash transactions all day and you don't know what I bought, what I So you can be you can be a gangster outlaw and live off the cash. Ain't no gangster outlaws, ain't nothing. As soon as you go crypto, the government knows everything about everyone. And that's what makes it crypto one step more dangerous over uh cash. But yeah, the convenience is through the roof. The convenience of the credit card and the debit card, the convenience of the robot in the home. It's what's going to get the robot. >> It's going to happen. So, we got So, what I'm saying, some of us have got to create some to come back or at least like ideologically that are different. It's got to happen. >> Well, do you believe me though that I'm not letting a robot into my house? >> Oh, yeah. >> I respect that decision. I think you that's your right always. That has to be your right. >> But we know that some of the neighbors aren't going to be as strongminded as me. They're going to say, "Oh, I trust him." >> 100%. >> It does my dishes. >> It does my dishes. I trust him. Yep. >> I don't trust him. That's my fundament. I cannot trust it. I cannot do it. They don't have souls, bro. >> Right. And that's why I can't that's why I can't allow it into my home because they're I think are total of devil. But like you said, it's going to happen. >> And the kids that are born 20 years from now, it's going to be so normal to them to see robots just walking around cuz they grew up like that. >> You ever seen that movie called Iroot? >> Yeah. >> It's got Will Smith. Will Smith. Yeah. >> Yeah. They they contacted me. I wrote that script. That movie was about me. [laughter] I was supposed to be Will Smith in that movie. I told them I was busy and Will could have my spot cuz that's how much I hate robots. I was supposed to be in that movie. >> Generous. very generous. >> They couldn't let you cuz you'd have slapped Chris Rock way harder, man. [laughter] >> Oh man. Uh I think I think we should probably wrap. I know it's about lunch time. Uh there's one one thing I want to ask you. It's kind of >> interesting cuz Matt is a father. I'm not a father and you're younger than both of us and you are a father. How's it changed your life? This is just a personal question cuz I'm thinking about it and but I'm not in the game yet, you know. >> How's it changed your life being a dad? >> Um it's made me realize what I would have missed out on if I wasn't a dad. to just literally have those moments where he's breathing and I'm breathing and holding him and see that joy through him and know that my father never got that experience. I want that experience for other people. I want everybody to have their own every man to have their own son or daughter because when you feel that experience, I just I encourage everybody go make a hund babies because uh build up the Christian army, build up the American army, and let's fight for good together because when you feel that bond with your kid, bro, it just it's amazing, man. And there's nothing else like that. And uh that's what it's all about, brother. And for the number one thing for having kids is what I did is I prayed over it. And I advise anybody that has kids, wants to have kids, just pray over just trust to God. Say, "Hey, God, give me the white the right wife. Give me um all the skills I need to be a great father that I need." And just pray over your wife. Pray over your kids. If you want to have kids, pray for them. If you want to have a wife, pray for it. I promise you, Lord provides in ways that we can't. That's when I met Aaron after I started praying for a wife and we talked about how that you know I went on a podcast and then I met my wife like bro that was that power of prayer because I was praying for months. I said God please send me a wife or I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm going to go crazy and he sent me an angel. You know what I mean? And then I prayed over having a son and I had a son and I say stay in that prayer and um be grateful for the blessings and I'll be praying for you too, brother. >> I appreciate that. >> I appreciate you, bro. and I wish a dozen kids upon you, man. And u I I think that's the most precious thing we can do is create a family. >> Great words, Bryce. Thanks for coming on the show. >> That's a great place to wrap, man. >> Hey, thank you so much, man. And and one more thing about children. Here's the thing. There's nothing if you believe in heaven, there's nothing on this earth you're going to take to to heaven. Nothing. Your clothes, your nothing. There's nothing you get to take. But if you're a good parent and you raise strong children, you'll see them in heaven. And that's something that there's nowhere else. That's what makes a child special is you could really create something eternal. God really gave us that ability to create something eternal. >> He put Yeah. And that that's what I think is what makes them so precious is because like they could there just endless possibilities. This kid's going to forever exist in God's kingdom if you raise them right. And uh thank you so much for letting me ramble, rant, get off topic, and thank you for steering me in. Man, thank you for steering the conversation. Uh, you know, let not letting me go too crazy and just doing such a fine job of interviewing because I had a lot of fun, bro. I forgot we were doing an interview. I thought we were just talking for >> Yeah, man. >> I think we were just talking. I know. >> Yeah, I think so. Thanks for letting us in into the shop. This is an incredible >> I think the highest compliment I think about the words that I use a lot and the highest compliment I can pay is someone's a real guy. And I think you're the realest of the real man. >> Come on, dude. Love you guys. God bless you guys, man.